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Re: img@relaxed CP [was: CfC: Close ISSUE-206: meta-generator by Amicable Resolution]

From: Janina Sajka <janina@rednote.net>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:27:08 -0400
To: Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis@googlemail.com>
Cc: "Michael[tm] Smith" <mike@w3.org>, public-html@w3.org, "Edward O'Connor" <eoconnor@apple.com>
Message-ID: <20120801022707.GF12889@concerto.rednote.net>
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis writes:
> FWIW what Flickr are doing _today_ when they don't have text appears
> to be just setting alt="photo".
> 
> Photo page of latest upload on Flickr at time of writing has
> 
>    <img id="liquid-photo" alt="photo" aria-describedby="title_div"
> width="640" height="427"
> src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8005/7688297284_4a72f82f25_z.jpg"
> style="visibility: visible; ">
> 
>     <h1 id="title_div" property="dc:title" class="photo-title">IMG_7354.jpg</h1>
> 
>     https://secure.flickr.com/photos/sarahannward/7688297284/
> 
> They link to that page with:
> 
>     <img src="https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8005/7688297284_4a72f82f25_t.jpg"
> width="100" height="67" alt="IMG_7354.jpg by sarahannward"
> class="pc_img" border="0">
> 
>     https://secure.flickr.com/photos/
> 

But, what's your point here?

This is certainly not good alt, but I wouldn't call this "harmful." No
one will die, no one will be rushed to any hospital, etc., etc.

And, should the Flicker site developers come to address this issue as a
result of taking HTML 5 to heart, I'd far rather they followed the WAI
Ad Hoc guidance fixing thier substandard alt. That would actually
improve the experience significantly, whereas Ted's opt out would do
nothing to improve things for anyone, including the uploader.

Speaking of the uploader, there's every reason the upload tool could
supply the alt strings contemplated by WAI Ad Hoc when the user hasn't
bothered to individualize alt on each photo. in this way the WAI solution doesn't
even require anything from Flicker to improve alt on Flicker.

Janina

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