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RE: Revert request for r6783

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:38:00 +0000
To: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>, "Sam Ruby (rubys@intertwingly.net)" <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "Maciej Stachowiak (mjs@apple.com)" <mjs@apple.com>
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The Chairs are working on this situation.  Please be patient.


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From: Steve Faulkner [mailto:faulkner.steve@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 9:14 PM
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Subject: Re: Revert request for r6783

Dear Chairs,

Please advise the working group as to when the <time> element will be restored to the HTML5 specification.

What is the impediment to the reverting of the change r6783?  The editor is actively responding to bugs [1], so I cannot imagine any reason this change has been made other than the editor has willfully ignored the instruction to make the change.

In which case it is the duty of the W3C team to make the change on behalf of the working group, please advise as to the status of this action.

I suggest the appearance of intransigence in resolving this issue only serves to undermine community faith in the W3C's stewardship of HTML.

[1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12393#c10

On 3 November 2011 21:08, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com<mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>> wrote:
The Chairs have received multiple requests to revert change r6783.

This change is related to bug 13240 [1] which was never sent to the HTML WG since it used a possibly incorrect Bugzilla component.  Since WG members were NOT notified of the creation of this bug the Chairs have decided that this change should be subject to the Enhanced Change Control rules in the WG Decision Policy [2]:

"Therefore during a pre-LC review, or during a Last Call, feature additions or removals should only be done with sufficient prior notice to the group, in the form of a bug, a WG decision, or an on-list discussion. This applies only to LC-track drafts and does not apply to drafts that may include material for future versions of HTML."

We therefore ask for a revert of this change to be completed no later than the end of day on Tuesday 8th of November.  If this revert is not complete by that time, we will instruct W3C staff to make this change.

In addition the Chairs plan to change the component of bug 13240 so that it is considered to be a Last Call bug on the HTML5 specification.   The Chairs also plan to add the TrackerRequest keyword to the bug so that it immediately becomes a Last Call WG issue(s).  Therefore we direct the HTML5 Editor to NOT process this bug further until the WG reaches a decision on the WG issue(s).  We note as well that this topic was on the agenda of today's WG F2F meeting [3].

On behalf of HTML WG Chairs

[1] http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13240
[2] http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy-v2.html#enhanced-cc
[3] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/TPAC2011

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with regards

Steve Faulkner
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