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- Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:31:01 +0000
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11731
Summary: Replace <hgroup> element with a <subhead> element used
as the child of the <hx> element
Product: HTML WG
Version: unspecified
Platform: PC
OS/Version: Linux
Status: NEW
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: HTML5 spec (editor: Ian Hickson)
AssignedTo: ian@hixie.ch
ReportedBy: jgraham@opera.com
QAContact: public-html-bugzilla@w3.org
CC: mike@w3.org, public-html-wg-issue-tracking@w3.org,
public-html@w3.org
Instead of
<hgroup>
<h1>Main Heading</h1>
<h2>Subheading</h2>
</hgroup>
we should adopt
<h1>Main Heading
<subhead>Subheading</subhead>
</h1>
This has several advantages:
* It is slightly less verbose
* It is easier to style with CSS. <hgroup> requires detailed knowledge of the
markup structure whereas with <subhead> and a :heading(n) selector, one can do:
:heading(n) {/*rules for the heading*/}
:heading(n) > subhead {/*special rules for the subheading*/}
* It is semantically less confusing. There is no ambiguity about whether the
<hgroup> is the heading element or the child <hx>. That means it is more
obvious what a :heading selector will select, and more obvious how
accessibility APIs will map the various elements.
* It arguably has better fallback semantically (if not visually, although that
is easier to fix using CSS; see above). A legacy UA will consider the whole
thing to be one heading rather than several headings with a
possibly-nonsensical parent-child relationship as in the <hgroup> case.
* It preserves the invariant that all <hx> elements represent headings, which
may make certain tools easier to write. I also think it makes the outline
algorithm slightly easier to implement.
* It seems harder to use incorrectly. The only obvious mistake that one could
make would be to use <subhead> outside a <hx> element which would be relatively
harmless (semantics of <div>).
The main disadvantages I can think of are:
* It makes it slightly harder to determine the text of a heading (need to walk
the tree skipping <subhead> elements). On the other hand simple properties like
.textContent should be considered inadequate anyway since alt text should be
considered part of the heading text.
* Doesn't support the use case of multiple subheadings of different weights.
This seems like a very minor use case that could be addressed in the future if
it is significant.
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