- From: Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 09:41:54 -0700
- To: Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org>
- Cc: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>, "Edward O'Connor" <hober0@gmail.com>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Geoff Freed <geoff_freed@wgbh.org> wrote: > So WebSRT will be different from SRT, which is different from TTML... speaking from a broadcaster/content producer point of view, I find this very discouraging. We already have a plethora of formats to deal with, each with its own limitations. WebSRT, too, will have its own limitations. Is the goal now to extend SRT into WebSRT in order to cover basic features already available in TTML, simply in order to eliminate the need for TTML? Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what seems is happening. In essence, yes, though you can replace "TTML" with most existing captioning formats, since the majority of them are substantially more complex to author and parse/display than is necessary for the vast majority of content. SRT is the closest-to-ideal existing format, it's just missing a few relatively small things that turned out to be widely necessary. The alternative to defining one format is to support all formats above some baseline usage number. There are a lot of formats, though, without any substantially dominant ones, so this potentially means supporting a lot of different formats. Further, these will all require substantial work to map them into the layout framework the web uses, so they can be interoperably implemented. Even if were to just say "All right, we're just doing TTML", it would require us to still produce a spec explaining how TTML's layout primitives should be interpreted. Potentially, of course, browsers could just implement XSL:FO directly, but initial feedback indicates that that's not an option they're willing to support. So we'd have to define how all of that maps into CSS, which would be as much or more work. ~TJ
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