- From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 11:49:37 +0100
- To: Aryeh Gregor <Simetrical+w3c@gmail.com>
- Cc: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, public-html@w3.org
- Message-ID: <AANLkTinZh2w3acKYT0pE9mU-ERKIIyBjwmrZXLrdC_jV@mail.gmail.com>
hi aryeh, here is a small study i did a while back (2007), which may be of interest Investigating the proposed alt attribute recommendations in HTML 5 http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/articles/altinhtml5.html regards stevef On 20 July 2010 00:01, Aryeh Gregor <Simetrical+w3c@gmail.com<Simetrical%2Bw3c@gmail.com> > wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 5:15 AM, Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc> wrote: > > I have two additional goals with these removals. First of all I think > > @alt is the most (or even only) successful bolt-on accessibility > > attribute in the history of HTML. And like old proverb goes: if it > > ain't broken, don't fix it. I.e. given the success of @alt, I think we > > should be extremely careful about messing around with it. For this > > reason I'd like to make the number of changes to @alt as small as > > possible. > > In what sense is alt so successful? It's true that a lot of websites > specify alt text, but in my experience, it's rarely any good. In > fact, most alt text I see is probably no better than just the > filename, which could be added automatically by the screen reader. It > seems to me that authors who use alt text overwhelmingly do so just to > shut up validators, and I can't see how this helps anyone. It's a > clear case of hidden metadata. > > What data is there that directly demonstrates that alt text as > actually used on typical websites is helpful to blind people in > practice? If you took a typical web page and removed all the alt > text, and maybe reconfigured the UA if its defaults for missing alt > text weren't great, would it be much less usable in a screen reader? > > -- with regards Steve Faulkner Technical Director - TPG Europe Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org Web Accessibility Toolbar - http://www.paciellogroup.com/resources/wat-ie-about.html
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