- From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
- Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 15:12:11 +0100
- To: "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>, "Jonas Sicking" <jonas@sicking.cc>
- Cc: "HTMLwg WG" <public-html@w3.org>
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 13:44:37 +0100, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
wrote:
>>> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/LongdescConformingWithWarning
> I personally do not think the case for longdesc is terribly compelling.
> I wanted to write this proposal so we have a middle-ground position on
> the table, that is a compromise between fully noncomforming and fully
> conforming. We can examine whether that middle ground satisfies more
> people than either of the extremes. If it cannot draw more support than
> either of the previous proposals then I will likely withdraw it.
Unlike Hixie's proposal, I think that this proposal can turn into
something I can support.
I don't think the statement in the Wiki that longdesc must refer to an
external page is accurate, and I would in any case change my change
proposal to explicitly allow for longdesc references to be within the page
(my understanding is that this is already allowed). I do consider that in
the long term longdesc should be phased out in favour of a more
generalised solution to the problem it solves - something like
aria-describedBy, but with a better way of handling descriptions that
*are* external references.
>> The second argument in the change proposal is:
>>
>> "Some laws, regulations and organizational policies may refer to
>> longdesc by name."
>>
>> Using this as argument for keeping any feature seems very sad to me.
>> The idealist in me strongly prefers to add accessibility features
>> based on what helps people with accessibility needs, rather than what
>> local laws say.
It is not axiomatic that laws, regulations and organisational policies are
wrong. Many things done for accessibility begin as one of those things.
cheers
Chaals
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