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Re: Updated DOCTYPE versioning change proposal (ISSUE-4)

From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:38:06 +0100
To: Kornel Lesiński <kornel@geekhood.net>
Cc: public-html@w3.org
Message-ID: <20100217173806853514.b8fa88a6@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Kornel Lesiński, Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:48:47 +0000:
> On 17 Feb 2010, at 14:34, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>> Kornel Lesiński, Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:03:05 +0000:
>>>>> It also doesn't make sense to claim that a page that uses the 
>>>>> internal subset is "valid HTML4", since you could inject pretty much 
>>>>> anything via the internal subset.
>>>> Again a theoretical point.
>>> How is internal subset in text/html anything but theoretical?
>>> It doesn't work in any browser, and AFAIK it never did.
>> It works fine in any browser and AFAIK it always did:
>> http://www.målform.no/html4-or-html5/index

> By "work" I mean doing what internal subset was defined to do in 
> SGML, rather than being misinterpreted or completely ignored at best.

So you insist on making points about SGML.

> In text/html parsed by browsers you can't change HTML content model 
> (e.g. you can't create new empty element), you can't define new 
> entities, fixed attributes won't be added to DOM.
> i.e. in text/html you are unable to use internal subset for its 
> purpose. At best you can use it to entertain users validating your 
> page in validators that are removed from reality.

Validation is very important. By adding a internal subset, I can make 
the validation _more_ up to reality.
leif halvard silli
Received on Wednesday, 17 February 2010 16:38:42 UTC

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