- From: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:27:38 +0100
- To: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
- Cc: Philip Taylor <pjt47@cam.ac.uk>, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, "public-html@w3.org" <public-html@w3.org>
Leif Halvard Silli, Wed, 17 Feb 2010 14:17:20 +0100: > Philip Taylor, Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:29:43 +0000: >> Julian Reschke wrote: >>> On 17.02.2010 10:08, Lachlan Hunt wrote: >>>> Leif Halvard Silli wrote: >>>>> Not in Safari 4. In the current version of Safari, this variant of the >>>>> strict Doctype triggers QuirksMode: >>>>> >>>>> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" >>>>> [<!ATTLIST P myattr CDATA #implied>]> >>>> >>>> This is a bogus DOCTYPE in HTML5 because there is no support for parsing >>>> the SGML syntax for the internal subset in the HTML serialisation. [...] >>> >>> ...just trying to understand... a DOCTYPE that previously triggered >>> standards mode will now (as in FF trunk + HTML5 parser) get you to >>> Quirks mode? >> >> Yes, but in pre-HTML5 browsers (IE, Firefox 3.6 without html5.enable, >> etc) doctypes will still only be parsed up to the *first* ">", so you >> will get the characters "]>" inserted as text into the body of the >> document, so today you can't use internal subsets in text/html anyway. > > Firefox and IE do indeed show the "]>". Opera and Konqueror do not. > Safari 4 does show it, but since Konqueror does not, then I don't trust > that this is a "honest" display. As this test page shows: > http://www.målform.no/html4-or-html5/ > > The good news is that it is easy to hide that issue - so you _can_ use > such Doctypes. As this page shows: > http://www.målform.no/html4-or-html5/workaround > > But it is only in Opera 10.5 and Safari - and apparently in Mindefield > - that there is a direct link between the "]>" issue and QuirksMode. And even if you hide the "]>", they are still in QuirksMode. -- leif halvard silli
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