Re: Doctypes that trigger quirks mode (was Re: Legacy Doctype and Doctype Versioning)

Maciej Stachowiak, Tue, 16 Feb 2010 19:19:15 -0800:
> On Feb 16, 2010, at 7:05 PM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:
>> Maciej Stachowiak, Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:15:02 -0800:
>>> On Jan 19, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
>>>> Larry Masinter wrote:
>>>>> Are there documents that are conforming to HTML 4.01 but are also
>>>>> "quirks mode"?
>>>> Yes.  From the spec, these two trigger quirks mode: [...]
>>> I suspect most people know this, but just to be clear, the HTML 4.01
>>> Strict DTD will *not* trigger quirks mode.
>> No, Maciej, this is not correct. Anymore.
>> Not in Safari 4. In the current version of Safari, this variant of the
>> strict Doctype triggers QuirksMode:
>> 	[<!ATTLIST P myattr CDATA #implied  >]>
> Are you reporting a bug in WebKit or a bug in the spec? WebKit bugs 
> should go to <>.

When I understand where the bug is ... then I can report it the right 
place. ;-)

>> Whereas it does not trigger quirks mode in Opera 10.10, Firefox 3.6,
>> Konqueror or IE. I also _suppose_ that in Safari 3, then it did not
>> trigger QuirksMode (since it doesn't trigger quirks in Konqueror)
>> In the just days old Opera 10.5 beta, however, there it _does_ trigger
>> quirks mode. (Whereas in Opera 10.10, then it does not.)
>> Are Webkit and Opera starting to treat anything that hasn't been
>> specified to trigger Standards mode in HTML5 as QuirksMode triggers? Is
>> this an effect of HTML5 defining QuirksMode as the default?
> HTML5 does not define quirks mode as the default. 

I'm sorry. I jumped over a ";" in the text. My bad.

> If a doctype is 
> present, then it the document is in strict mode unless it is one of 
> the doctypes that specifically triggers quirks mode. The list is here:
> I do not believe your doctype should trigger quirks mode per that 
> list unless I am misreading it. That being said, if you see a flaw in 
> that list, please report it.

OK. So this means that Opera 10.5 and Safari have bugs. Good to know!
leif halvard silli

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