- From: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
- Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:49:30 +0200
- To: "public-html@w3.org WG" <public-html@w3.org>
On 24.02.2010 14:00, Sam Ruby wrote:
> ...
> If you don't think it is a good use of our time, the alternative is to
> simply close the issue without prejudice. If we get to the point where
> somebody actually puts together a coherent and actionable proposal, we
> can discuss it at that time.
>
>> Best regards, Julian
>
> - Sam Ruby
> ...
Here's a Change Proposal for this issue. I apologize for the delay.
Also, it's a bit strange to force a proper description of @profile into
an "implementation requirements" section, as @profile is totally
advisory, and to ignore it is totally ok. But the current spec says
"should ignore", and that's why we're debating this.
With this explanation, on to the change proposal:
SUMMARY
Subsection 11.3.4 ("Other elements, attributes and APIs") of section
11.3 ("Requirements for implementations") talks about implementation
requirements for the head/@profile attribute.
This in itself is a bit strange, as there actually is no *required*
behavior for head/@profile - it is an annotation, and its use is totally
optional.
That being said, the actual text is both misleading and inaccurate. This
proposal attempts to fix this description; a broader change would be to
actually document head/@profile properly as conforming attribute.
RATIONALE
Stated "implementation requirements" should actually describe the main
use case of head/@profile (which is disambiguation); they currently do not.
DETAILS
The current text (as of 2010-04-07) reads:
"...User agents should ignore the profile content attribute on head
elements."
Comment: if they "should" ignore it then there is no implementation
requirement, right?
"When the attribute would be used as a list of URLs identifying metadata
profiles, the user agent should instead always assume that all known
profiles apply to all pages, and should therefore apply the conventions
of all known metadata profiles to the document, ignoring the value of
the attribute."
Comment 1: The condition "When the attribute would be used as a list of
URLs identifying metadata profiles" first of all is untestable, second
of all it's always true according to HTML4.
Comment 2: "...the user agent should instead always assume that all
known profiles apply to all pages..." -- this neglects the case where
the attribute value is actually needed to disambiguate to extensions
that use the same syntactical extension point.
"When the attribute's value would be handled as a list of URLs to be
dereferenced, the user agent must use the following steps:"
Comment: Untestable.
The proposed new text addresses the main issue being that profile URIs
may be needed for disambiguation, thus, *in general*, can't be simply
ignored.
Proposed new text:
-- snip --
[Supplemental]
interface HTMLHeadElement {
attribute DOMString profile;
};
The profile attribute contains a set of white-space separated meta data
profile names in the form of URLs.
Processing of meta data profiles is optional.
Meta data profile names can both be globally unique names, or links to
further information to be dereferenced.
In the first case, the mere presence of a profile name can be used to
enable profile-specific extensions. This can be important in case the
user agent supports multiple extensions that can not be disambiguated
without this additional annotation.
In the second case, the profile name can be resolved relative to the
head element, resulting in an absolute URL that can be fetched for
appropriate processing.
The profile IDL attribute of the head element must reflect the content
attribute of the same name, as if the attribute's value was just a
string. (In other words, the value is not resolved in any way on getting.)
-- snip --
IMPACT
1. Positive Effects
The misleading statement about "should ignore" is removed; the actual
use case is explained.
2. Negative Effects
Stating the actual use case may cause people to question why the profile
attribute is considered obsolete in the first place.
3. Conformance Classes Changes
None.
4. Risks
None.
REFERENCES
None.
Best regards, Julian
Received on Wednesday, 7 April 2010 15:50:08 UTC