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Re: Design Principles

From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 05:41:59 -0700
Cc: Anne van Kesteren <annevk@opera.com>, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com>, Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
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To: Leif Halvard Silli <lhs@malform.no>

On May 25, 2009, at 5:29 AM, Leif Halvard Silli wrote:

> Anne van Kesteren On 09-05-24 22.37:
>> On Sun, 24 May 2009 21:22:14 +0200, Larry Masinter <masinter@adobe.com 
>> > wrote:
>>> Are you asking me to critique the HTML document against
>>> these design prinicples, the design principles themselves,
>>> or something else?
>> You keep alluding to problems with the design principles, but you  
>> never actually state them. Making the issues more explicit is what  
>> I am asking for.
> Are you alluding to problems with understanding Larry?
> No one will subscribe to reasonable principles if, in reality, they  
> are (honestly, of course)  interpreted to legitimize things that one  
> are opposed to, disagree with and, in fact, not found in the  
> principles. I think Larry (and Dan also, if I understood the IRC log  
> of the telcon correctly) has pointed to a problem with the / 
> interpretation/ of the principles. "Pave the cow paths" has been  
> interpreted to say "do not pave anything that perhaps isn't a cow  
> path".

Can you cite an example of anyone making that kind of argument and  
citing the "Pave the Cowpaths" principle? The text says: "When a  
practice is already widespread among authors, consider adopting it  
rather than forbidding it or inventing something new." I can't see how  
it would ever justify *not* supporting something. In fact, the only  
time I recall hearing this kind of argument is from those who think  
the principle is a bad one, and who claimed others were incorrectly  
applying it in this way. It seems uncontroversial as actually stated.

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