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Re: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-05-21

From: Rob Sayre <rsayre@mozilla.com>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:39:23 -0400
Message-ID: <4A1575AB.8050604@mozilla.com>
To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
CC: Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
On 5/21/09 10:09 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Larry Masinter wrote:
>> I am not satisfied with the Sam's suggested "Process for Proposals", 
>> as it
>> is at odds with the W3C process, and subject to manipulations that are
>> inconsistent with a transparent open standards process.
> Any process is subject to manipulations. That's why we have chairs, 
> domain leaders, etc. If you believe that I have been other than 
> transparent and open, I ask that you say so now. As to being 'at odds 
> with the W3C process'... while I will grant that this working group is 
> operating in a novel and unique way, and has done so since well before 
> I assumed co-chairmanship, I can find nothing in the W3C process 
> documentation that would support such a claim.

"The HTML5 work isnít using the traditional W3C approach, and will never 
use a consensus approach so long as I am editor. Consensus simply isnít 
a good way to get technically solid specifications, and is in any case 
basically impossible to achieve in a group with hundreds of participants 
such as this one." - Ian Hickson [1]

That statement seems straightforwardly at odds with the W3C process, 
where consensus is listed as a core value.

- Rob

[1] http://intertwingly.net/blog/2008/11/20/Half-Full#c12273175611
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