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Re: Why I don't attend the weekly teleconference (Was: Input on the agenda)

From: Steven Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:13:15 +0100
Message-ID: <55687cf80906300413p77aa6948red860b5965b7ac92@mail.gmail.com>
To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Cc: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
not that I know of, commercial vendors AT are the opposite of open.
They consider what's under the hood of their products to be commercial
secrets. To understand much of how AT behave and what they support,
reverse engineering is required. Which is what myself and others have
done for many behaviours.
I haven't done so for their table filtering as I have other testing
prioties (ie ARIA) and also don't consider that it will make a
difference in this particular debate whether the algorithm is
understood or not.


2009/6/30 Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>:
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Steven Faulkner wrote:
>> the most poular screen reader JAWS announces the summary on data tables
>> by default, if it is used on a layout table it is generally not
>> announced as JAWS filters out layout tables (as the table element use
>> for layout has been widely abused).
> Is there any documentation on what consists a layout table, for these
> purposes?
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with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG Europe
Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium

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