- From: Smylers <Smylers@stripey.com>
- Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:23:15 +0100
- To: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
Laura Carlson writes: > A summary mechanism is needed for the Blind/Non-Visual Use Case > http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/SummaryForTABLE#head-2a3e0996e746aaf82eff0fe4ce9f6477bcaf6036 That page contains this example of a good table summary: <table summary="This table presents traveling expenses. Rows contain destinations, traveling dates, and grand total. Columns contain expense category and total. The first column contains merged table cells."> <!-- Remainder of table --> Please could a proponent of summary who considers the above to be an example of a good summary provide the corresponding example table it's summarizing (or an example of one you had in mind, if the above is a synthetic example), to show the summary in context? It would be good to include other context such as any caption, legend, or heading which would be encountered next to this table. Obviously a summary is only any good if its contents actually match its table (for a table of cricket bowling statistics the above would be a terrible summary!), but I'm not just asking for the sake of it: * My main reason is that I'm wondering how much of the above could be automatically generated by a user-agent. HTML 5 defines which headers apply to which cells, and obviously a user-agent knows which cells are merged, so possibly there could be an algorithmic way of generating descriptions of table structures such as the above for any (or at least a large proportion of) data tables. A user-agent could have a 'describe table structure' feature which is independent of an author providing a good (or indeed any) summary. In terms of getting the information to those users who need it, this may have more success than engaging authors to write good summaries: user-agent developers seem on average more likely to follow the HTML 5 spec than most authors, and there are fewer of them. If this were possible it would reduce the number of tables which require a handwritten summary, reducing the burden on authors. * The secondary reason why I'm asking is because I tried to do this myself -- synthesize a table that matches the above summary -- and failed to work it out. This is slightly interesting because having the summary but not the table structure is exactly the position that the potential users of summary are typically in (though of course they may be much better at working out the structure from the summary than I have been; I'm not claiming this sample size of one to be in any way representative). So I'm intrigued as to what the table is that matches this summary, and to see how they match up. Thanks. Smylers
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