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Re: Issues of @summary and use of data for "decisions"

From: Simon Pieters <simonp@opera.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:35:05 +0200
To: "Laura Carlson" <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>
Cc: "Shelley Powers" <shelley.just@gmail.com>, "Sam Ruby" <rubys@intertwingly.net>, "HTMLWG WG" <public-html@w3.org>, "wai-xtech@w3.org" <wai-xtech@w3.org>
Message-ID: <op.uvzx8rrridj3kv@simon-pieterss-macbook.local>
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:22:32 +0200, Laura Carlson  
<laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Simon,
>>> It is not okay to  render critical content that is essential to
>>> comprehension via CSS.
>> That's not what I was saying.
>> I said that the contents of <caption> can be hidden from visual users  
>> with
>> CSS, should the author be reluctant to include it visually.
> Ah. Sorry. You are right. It could. But to me that is a pretty ugly
> work around.

It a technique that accessibility-aware authors are familiar with and  
already use to hide e.g. <h1>-<h6> elements.

> I  worry about authorabilty and confused functionality
> (caption and summary serve different proposes).

It would be a bit harder to author (for authors who are reluctant to  
include the information visually), yes. But the same technique can be used  
for other things on the page, too.

> Simon, you are a member of the PF working group. Have you discussed
> with them whether your solution provides the needed accessibility
> functionality? If so, what was their response?

I haven't.

I've cc-ed wai-xtech.

> The HTML and PF working groups should be working together, reaching
> higher, and seeking ways of advancing accessibility for people with
> disabilities. I'm not sure that your idea would do it, but it
> certainly should be discussed.

Simon Pieters
Opera Software
Received on Tuesday, 23 June 2009 21:35:57 UTC

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