- From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
- Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 15:14:43 -0700
- To: public-html@w3.org
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At 17:27 +0100 5/06/09, Philip Taylor wrote: >As it happens, I'm using that data now. >http://philip.html5.org/data/table-summary-values-dotbot.html shows >the <table summary> values from their set of pages. >(http://philip.html5.org/data/table-summary-values.html has the >older data from dmoz.org.) wow. fascinating. depressing. aside: anyone happen to know what software makes summaries like "pid<number>" (there are many many lines like pid2290201)? I was going to ask how many summaries were used only once (on the grounds that a unique summary was plausibly custom-made for that page) until I saw all these! (anyone want to hazard an estimate how many of these would be useful for someone needing a summary?) At 12:22 -0700 5/06/09, John Foliot wrote: >It is also important to note that the PF-WG specifically wrote: > >* We reject the argument that summary should be removed from the >HTML >* specification because it is not implemented on most web sites. We >note >* that accessibility is poorly supported on most web sites. The >wider >* web is not an example of good practice. Hm. I think we've already noted that "failed to establish a cowpath" is not a design principle (though I think we can all take it as a cause for concern and ask "why?", and if the problem is the specification, see whether we can do better.) I think the concern here is that it has become hopelessly polluted - that nobody who needs what a proper summary would provide, would ever dream of looking in the summary attribute. (And no-one who writes UAs to do that would do it, either). Which is why I am happy to see facts, even if they strike as depressing on first glance. -- David Singer Multimedia Standards, Apple Inc.
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