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Re: Design Principles, Section 1.6.1 relationship to HTML 4.01

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:15:05 +0000 (UTC)
To: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
Cc: Laura Carlson <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0906011911060.19521@hixie.dreamhostps.com>
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009, Sam Ruby wrote:
> Ian Hickson wrote:
> > On Sun, 31 May 2009, Laura Carlson wrote:
> > > Principles that use wishy-washy rhetoric are not principles at all. They
> > > are judgment calls, completely subjective to the personal opinion of the
> > > person invoking the principle or authoring the spec.
> > 
> > Welcome to language design.
> Ian, in an attempt to make the conversation more productive: I take your
> answer as basic agreement with Laura that the current Design Principles
> document does not meet the goals stated in the Introduction of that document,
> as the goals it sets for itself are basically unattainable.
> Is this what you wish to convey?  If not, can you clarify what you do mean?

I think the text in the Introduction of the editor's draft of the HTML 
Design Principles as of rev 1.26 is quite accurate, and that the rest of 
the text in that document meets the goals set out in the introduction 
admirably. I think that it is ridiculous to think that language design can 
ever be based on strict objective rules, and I do not think that the 
design guidelines claim that this is what is attempted (indeed quite the 
opposite). In fact, that's what the term "design principles" means.

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