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Re: ACTION-128: Draft @summary voting text in conjunction with PF

From: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:57:34 +0000 (UTC)
To: Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>, Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, Joshue O Connor <joshue.oconnor@cfit.ie>
Cc: public-html@w3.org, wai-xtech@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0907081850140.1970@hixie.dreamhostps.com>
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Shelley Powers wrote:
> 
> All due respect to Joshue, since he was the one tasked with creating the 
> vote question (with PF), the text for this vote loads the deck against 
> summary by tying it directly to HTML 4, while highlighting that your 
> choice is already in the HTML 5 specification.
> 
> Each should be given as recommended text, and spelled out in the vote. 
> Bring out the specification text, as recommended by PF, for summary, 
> list with the text extracted from the HTML 5 document (which shouldn't 
> have been added until after the vote, to be fair), and then allow both 
> to be voted on by their merits.

The actual text in the HTML5 specification is pages long and split across 
multiple sections, so I don't think it's practical to include the actual 
text with the vote. Also, I would not want the vote to lock us into 
specific text, since we should still be able to improve the text further 
in the future. It is merely the approach that matters, IMHO.

Having said that, the proposed vote text does point to the most important 
section in HTML5 about this.


On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
> 
> In this case, you have now excluded the option of making summary 
> non-conforming, and left two options that say conforming and encouraged, 
> and conforming but discouraged.  To be fair, we need an option for 
> non-conforming to be included in the vote.

On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Joshue O Connor wrote:
>
> Those suggestions are reasonable. Noted.

Joshue, so as to avoid the appearance of steamrolling you on this, I'd 
like to suggest that you provide the next iteration of the proposal, if 
you think we should take into account Shelley and Lachlan's comments 
above. If you can propose something before about 1am PDT Thursday (0800 
UTC), I should have time to comment before Sam's deadline.

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