- From: Joe D Williams <joedwil@earthlink.net>
- Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 22:11:39 -0800
- To: "Jonas Sicking" <jonas@sicking.cc>, "Julian Reschke" <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
- Cc: "Boris Zbarsky" <bzbarsky@mit.edu>, <public-html@w3.org>
What, step up to YouTube and tell them how full of it they are for using mindless junk like this? <object style="height: 344px; width: 425px" > <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/vwI3tL2yc6k"> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"> <param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/vwI3tL2yc6k" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="425" height="344"> </object> Good Luck and Best Regards, Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Sicking" <jonas@sicking.cc> To: "Julian Reschke" <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Cc: "Boris Zbarsky" <bzbarsky@mit.edu>; <public-html@w3.org> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: Re: http content type authoritative for object data? > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Julian Reschke > <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote: >> Jonas Sicking wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Julian Reschke >>> <julian.reschke@gmx.de> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> There is lots of good data in the bugs I cited. And suggestions >>>>> for >>>>> further reasearch. >>>>> >>>>> If someone feels passionate about this I suggest they do the >>>>> remaining >>>>> research as well as getting the know broken sites fixed. *That* >>>>> has a >>>>> much >>>>> greater chance of getting implementations to change than >>>>> anything any >>>>> spec >>>>> says. >>>> >>>> Step 1 is to *allow* a UA to treat the HTTP content-type as >>>> authoritative. >>> >>> I disagree. As a browser developer, data based on research is much >>> more likely to convince me that something will not break the web >>> than >>> a spec forbidding, requiring, allowing or recommending any >>> particular >>> behavior. That is step 1. >> >> So if what the spec requires isn't your top consideration you >> probably >> shouldn't care whether it requires or just allows ignoring the HTTP >> content-type. > > I still care what the spec says, for wholly different reasons. I > still > want the spec to be a useful reference for people writing UAs, as > well > as for people authoring content / writing tutorials for people > authoring content. > > What I was more hoping for though was that someone on this list > would > care enough about improving the web by making it possible for UAs to > do what we all want them to do. I.e. doing the legwork to do the > research and contacting the relevant sites. > > I'm still hoping to hear someone step up to do this. > > / Jonas >
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