- From: Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:53:46 -0600
- To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Cc: HTMLWG WG <public-html@w3.org>
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com> wrote: >> If you want to debate Tab, I find that telling a person to stop using >> an argument as justification isn't effective. I can use an argument, >> and you can provide a counter, and leave it to the reader to form >> their own conclusion as to which is the superior argument. > > I am not attempting to debate. This is not an opinion, or something > where reasonable people can differ. It is a plain fact that figures, > in common usage, often contain code and tables (I'm certain I could > find a decent number of examples of figures containing prose as well, > perhaps of poetry being commented on). > > I am simply correcting a mistaken assertion that you have made at > least twice, and am requesting that you stop making the assertion now > that it has been proven to be false. It is a requirement of rational > debate that the debaters not purposely rely on false arguments. > >> We can put illustrative tables in figure, but there is no way to mark >> the table as illustrative, and to suggest that the table not be parsed >> into the DOM, or parsed by search engines. We don't have this ability >> now, when we use tables for illustration contained within a div >> element, true, but the purpose behind figure is, I believe, because >> we're trying to improve the semantics of the markup. If this is true, >> then the semantics must be extended across all levels of the web page, >> and this includes the DOM. > > This talk of "not [parsing a table] into the DOM" is a red herring. > There is no reason to not parse it in, even if it *is* purely > illustrative and does not contain any vital data in and of itself. > Maciej, in the bug, gave several reasons why one would want the > content of even illustrative tables to show up properly in the page > (searching, accessibility, etc.). > > ~TJ > I respect that your opinion differs from mine, Tab. But I will continue to express my opinion. Shelley
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