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Re: The cite and pubdate attributes

From: Joe D Williams <joedwil@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:09:43 -0700
Message-ID: <A34952C96ED945DDAEB9510964C47DA0@joe1446a4150a8>
To: "Toby A Inkster" <tai@g5n.co.uk>, "Lachlan Hunt" <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>
Cc: "public-html" <public-html@w3.org>
> Certainly both can be replaced with a little RDFa fairly easily.

If I understand  Toby's comment, certainly whatever ud or rd is 
propsed, this transient conditional commentary markup and data should 
be handled by the selected candidate technology. I think it is most 
important to keep the actual 'spec' keystrokes at a minimum. Please 
don't clobber the basic 'normative' text and art with a lot of 
'informative' commentary, or in these cases, more like 'critical' 
items or a running judgement/target/replacements/whatever that these 
additions represent.
I think I would be just as happy looking at a second window that just 
includes this 'critical' (in the context of providing a sanctioned 
informed reasoned opinion from some otherwise impartial concensus 
group within the topic WG). Anyway, please give me the option of 
reading a naked one
Also please recognize that the spec does not always run in all 
contributing member browsers now.

Thank You and Best Regards,

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Toby A Inkster" <tai@g5n.co.uk>
To: "Lachlan Hunt" <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>
Cc: "public-html" <public-html@w3.org>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:23 AM
Subject: Re: The cite and pubdate attributes

> On 10 Aug 2009, at 12:48, Lachlan Hunt wrote:
>>   The cite and pubdate attributes now defined for the article and 
>> section elements don't seem to be very well designed.  It's not 
>> entirely clear what problem they are meant to solve, or use cases 
>> they are addressing.  They also violate the usual visible metadata 
>> pattern and duplicate much of the functionality of other features 
>> that are already in the spec.
> Certainly both can be replaced with a little RDFa fairly easily.
> <section id="foo" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/terms/" about="#foo">
>   <h1 property="dc:title">Foo</h1>
>   <p>
>     This section was first published at
>     <time property="dc:issued">2009-01-01 12:00:00</time>
>     and is based on
>     <a rel="dc:source" href="http://example.com/data">this data</a>.
>   </p>
> </section>
> -- 
> Toby A Inkster
> <mailto:mail@tobyinkster.co.uk>
> <http://tobyinkster.co.uk>
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