- From: Shelley Powers <shelley.just@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:22:40 -0500
- To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
- Cc: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>, Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>, HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Julian Reschke<julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote: > Maciej Stachowiak wrote: >> >> ... >> I think you have to read it in context. Notice how those two sentences are >> followed by a long paragraph explaining the right considerations for when >> summary is appropriate. >> >> Keep in mind that in addition to the sentence that authors SHOULD use one >> of the other techniques, the listing of the summary attribute means that >> authors MAY use it. I think this makes sense given the guidance. > > "MAY do a" + "SHOULD NOT do a" does not work, using RFC2119 terminology. > > Either it's ok, or not. If it's ok in some cases (which it is), then "should > not" is the wrong way to talk about it. > >>> ...which I think is the wrong thing to do if one believes that @summary >>> *does* have a special purpose for screen readers, which none of the >>> alternatives have. >> >> If you read the following guidance, I think readers get the right advice >> on the whole. > > I appreciate the advice, but in the end the spec still says "should not", > lists it in the "obsolete, but conforming" section, and points out it will > produce an error. > > So, from that point of view, we are almost where we were seven days ago. Bingo, Julian got it in one. There's been a lot of word usage, and some interesting massaging of text, but if you boil it down to its simplest, we're in the same place we were seven days ago. > >>> Furthermore, the spec still lists @summary under "obsolete but >>> conforming". >> >> To my reading, the warning for @summary is mentioned under "obsolete but >> conforming", as a Note, with all the other warnings, but @summary is not >> labeled "obsolete". It is listed as a conforming attribute (with some >> guidelines for proper use). So I would say summary is "mentioned" rather >> than "listed" in that section. > > So why is it "mentioned" then? > > BR, Julian > > Shelley
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