- From: Jeff Schiller <codedread@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 23:30:55 -0500
- To: HTML WG <public-html@w3.org>
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Ian Hickson wrote: > The argument here is that summary="" is needed because it isn't shown to > visual-UA users. This has been countered by showing that summaries that > are useful to non-visual UAs are in fact also useful to users of visual > UAs, Actually I thought the case is made that it is structural/spatial nature of the table that is supposed to be included in @summary: <table summary="Rows contain destinations, traveling dates, and grand total. Columns contain expense category and total. The first column contains merged table cells."> and that a visual UA user would instantly see the above in the table itself immediately without a need for the summary. Why would they also want to see the example summary text in a caption somewhere? > and that in addition, having summaries not visible to visual UAs is > causing authors to fail to write good summaries. I can understand that, but I don't think caption has been proven as a mechanism to capture the spatial/structural nature of a table either. In fact, BECAUSE captions are visible I feel we are less likely to see authors authoring what they will find as redundant information in their captions just as Laura has stated: > Providing it visually would be extra > verbiage that most authors/designers would be reluctant to include > visually on a page because of redundancy. Regards, Jeff
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