- From: Sam Kuper <sam.kuper@uclmail.net>
- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:31:29 +0000
- To: "Dailey, David P." <david.dailey@sru.edu>
- Cc: "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4126b3450810300731t4f5d0cdfl5478b386eb8edff9@mail.gmail.com>
2008/10/30 Dailey, David P. <david.dailey@sru.edu> > If C quotes a previous statement by A who was quoting a putative future > thought by B where the time of the thought by B is, in fact, earlier than > the ostensible reading of C's statement, then certain languages like Navajo > (with its incredibly complex sense of aspect) might be expected to > encapsulate it all in a most eloquent set of grammatical devices. Should our > theories of punctuation not be extended to handle temporal, probabilistic > and epistemic aspects of verbs? > Assuming that "we" means the HTML 5 WG, then the answer probably ought to be "no". As far as the <q> element is concerned, I don't think HTML 5 ought to possess any "theory of punctuation" that extends beyond defining, for authors, that <q> represents a quotation, and specifying that UAs ought where possible to implement a (fairly limited) default, user-overridable set of styles (say, one for each language in ISO 639-1 plus rules for encapsulating foreign languages) for rendering <q> elements. What those styles should be, I don't know in advance, but I think it's *very* unlikely they ought to be extended to handle temporal, probabilistic and epistemic aspects of verbs, not least because these are properties I do not believe the <q> element can express. > Suppose an utterance is expressed in a base language, let's call it > Punctuation ML, for which the primitives of the ML are necessary and > sufficient for the punctuation of human thought (hence, a language more > basic than HTML). Then to what extent might we hope for our PML to be > transformable into either HTML or SVG (through, say, XSLT) as appropriate? > This would be easier to determine if such a language as PML existed, but since it does not (and, I would argue, is unlikely to as long as "sufficient for the punctuation of human thought" remains a contested concept). Since if does not, this is not a concrete use case, and as such, is out of scope for the HTML5 WG, in my opinion. Contextually, [...] it may not be a practical consideration. > I don't believe it is a practical consideration, not least because the HTML WG doesn't not have a time-machine as its disposal! Regards, Sam
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