- From: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
- Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:43:22 +0300
- To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- Cc: "public-html@w3.org WG" <public-html@w3.org>
On Oct 14, 2008, at 02:34, Ian Hickson wrote: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Henri Sivonen wrote: >> Making translation subtitle selection automatic (as opposed to >> exposing >> same-language captioning for the deaf) is a non-trivial problem when >> users aren't monolingual. It's not too unusual for people to accept >> audio in a couple of languages without subtitles but prefer subtitles >> for one of them in difficult cases and to also accept subtitles in a >> couple of languages but to wish to avoid them when unnecessary. >> Especially it would be hard to create configuration UI that is simple >> enough for users to use (and thus content providers could rely on the >> selection mechanism to do the right thing) and that would at the >> same be >> smart enough to choose the right subtitles without annoying users all >> the time. >> >> It seems to me that this feature has an unfavorable cost/benefit >> ratio >> in terms of UI complexity cost vs. benefit from not requiring users >> to >> choose subtitles from on-page UI each time, so I wouldn't make any >> plans >> with the expectation that this kind of feature would get implemented, >> working and popular. > > I don't really follow. Computer DVD player software seems to manage > fine. > It remembers the language that I last used, and whether I last had > them on > or off, and just keeps that setting. If I change it, which is just a > matter of picking a language from a list of available languages, it > remembers that instead. Putting the selection in a context menu and remembering the last choice might work. That way, the user doesn't have to touch the context menu when watching similar videos in a row. My point is that it's futile to try design a subtitling-specific ahead- of-time preference UI for expressing the user's language preferences and to get the users to use it. And reusing the Mac OS X UI language setting, the browser UI language or the browser Accept-Language isn't the same preference. -- Henri Sivonen hsivonen@iki.fi http://hsivonen.iki.fi/
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