- From: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi>
- Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:23:58 +0300
- To: Boris Zbarsky <bzbarsky@mit.edu>
- Cc: Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@lachy.id.au>, "public-html@w3.org WG" <public-html@w3.org>
On Apr 21, 2008, at 21:25, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > I think you missed David's point, which was that while this > reasoning might make sense in this one case, a blanket principle > that author convenience that trumps user convenience (which is what > Henri proposed) is by no means desirable, nor a given. I'm all for user convenience, but I think the convenience impact analysis should include the effects of user-inconveniencing author behavior arising from authors disagreeing with the browser defaults. That is, I think having to flip a pref is the lesser inconvenience if it stops and arms race between authors and browsers. Consider the Safari focus case. It's an inconvenience that Safari isn't keyboardable out of the box, but it is less of an inconvenience than Mac-based designers trying to make the focus outlines go away when the colors interfere with their design (actual concern from Mac IE 5 era). With the pref, the smart authors know that whenever a user sees the focus ring, the user really wants it, and clueless authors don't even know the focus outline is a possibility. -- Henri Sivonen hsivonen@iki.fi http://hsivonen.iki.fi/
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