- From: Jim Jewett <jimjjewett@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:04:12 -0400
- To: "John Foliot" <foliot@wats.ca>, HTML4All <list@html4all.org>, "Dan Connolly" <connolly@w3.org>, "HTML WG" <public-html@w3.org>, "Michael(tm) Smith" <mike@w3.org>, wai-xtech@w3.org, "Al Gilman" <Alfred.S.Gilman@ieee.org>, ian@hixie.ch
Ian wrote: > D. Mark the image as being > critical-but-of-unknown-content. > I'm aware of three syntax proposals for D > (omitting alt to indicate this case, > introducing a new attribute value to indicate > this case, and introducing a new attribute > to indicate this case) and one conformance > definition proposal for handling D. Instead of introducing a new attribute, this might be a good use of role, particularly in conjunction with a conformance state like "alt text needed, otherwise valid." (Details below are indeed similar to the new attribute value case.) I understand that alt="" is defined to mean presentational, but it doesn't mean that in practice, because alt="" is the default output of so many tools. Elements with aria role="presentation" are likely to be truly presentational. Since there are not currently tools putting this out by default, we can still require that it not be output by default -- and if the choice is explicit, the human author has taken responsibility. When the role is absent or not presentational (e.g., "main", "secondary", or "note"), then the alt is required for a fully valid document. Again, it is clearly the user's responsibility (not the tool's) to change the role or supply this alt text, and that responsibility can be reflected in the validation status. For those rare cases where the alt is truly impossible to create, the user can choose to publish anyhow -- but the validation checkers will say there is a problem with the content, rather than the tool. -jJ
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