- From: Leif Halvard Silli <lhs@malform.no>
- Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:56:38 +0200
- To: Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch>
- CC: John Foliot <foliot@wats.ca>, "'Laura Carlson'" <laura.lee.carlson@gmail.com>, wai-xtech@w3.org, wai-liaison@w3.org, public-html@w3.org, "'HTML4All'" <list@html4all.org>
Ian Hickson 08-04-15 20.56: > On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, John Foliot wrote: > > Ian Hickson wrote: > > There's no way to know. My point is that this: > > <figure> > <img src="a.jpeg"> > <legend>I snapped this photo the other day while walking around the > Googleplex and saw Ian Hickson working at his desk.</legend> > </figure> > > ...is significantly less annoying than this: > > <figure> > <img src="a.jpeg" alt="I snapped this photo the other day while > walking around the Googleplex and saw Ian > Hickson working at his desk."> > <legend>I snapped this photo the other day while walking around the > Googleplex and saw Ian Hickson working at his desk.</legend> > </figure> > And why do you come with that comparison? To bad things, and let's see what is best? Btw, I think it was at AListApart I read that AT users disliked that the content of the TITLE element was repeated in the <H1> element. > ...while providing no less information -- and arguably more, since in the > second case the image-disabled user can't easily distinguish it from this > third case: > > <figure> > <p>I snapped this photo the other day while walking around the > Googleplex and saw Ian Hickson working at his desk.</p> > <legend>I snapped this photo the other day while walking around the > Googleplex and saw Ian Hickson working at his desk.</legend> > </figure> > > ...which, per spec, is semantically equivalent. > > A third bad example, again talking about the fact - yest - that it is possible to have alt content without having the embedded content in place. But, why would anyone drop to place a photo inside <figure> or forget the SRC inside <IMG>? How often does that happen? Is it a real problem? Do you think that anyone will actively try to fool AT users? So: No one care about alternative content, unless they can use it to fool an AT user? For that matter, even if ther is a IMG and a SRC in that IMG, the AT user cannot know if there actually is any image at that URL. Nor can he know if it is the right image. -- leif halvard silli
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