- From: Bonner, Matt (IPG) <matt.bonner@hp.com>
- Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:18:33 +0000
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Are there any usability studies or tests done by screen reader software companies that could help resolve this debate? Too much of this discussion sounds more like opinions than conclusions from real-world studies of those who use the technology. Working in a group that performs many kinds of psychometric studies has taught me that the opinions and preferences of groups of people are rarely as simple as "the visually impaired would always want the alt text to say X." regards, Matt -- Matt Bonner Hewlett-Packard Company -----Original Message----- From: public-html-request@w3.org [mailto:public-html-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Ian Hickson Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 1:01 PM To: Leif Halvard Silli Cc: Dr. Olaf Hoffmann; public-html@w3.org Subject: Re: several messages relating to the alt="" attribute On Fri, 11 Apr 2008, Leif Halvard Silli wrote: > > <img alt='card 14' src="r14.jpg'> > > should be just fine. It is short, and it would not miss any points. It > should be more accessible than the spec is now. I disagree that the AT reading the spec's example as "Card 1. A black outline of the first of the ten cards in the Rorschach inkblot test." would be better than it reading it as "(AT-specific cue that an unknown image is present). A black outline of the first of the ten cards in the Rorschach inkblot test." "Card 1" is not an alternative for Rorschach1.jpg, it's a title. <figure> <img title="Card 1" src=r1.jpg> <legend>A black outline of the first of the ten cards in the Rorschach inkblot test.</legend> </figure> ...would be ok, the AT could render that as (where /.../ indicates an AT-specific voice cue): "/Image with title: Card 1./ A black outline of the first of the ten cards in the Rorschach inkblot test." The point being that the alt="" attributes indicates that the existence of the image doesn't need to be conveyed to the user at all, but here we do want to convey the presence of the image. -- Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL http://ln.hixie.ch/ U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,. Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'
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