- From: Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>
- Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 14:15:19 -0400
- To: public-html-wg-announce@w3.org
Available at
http://www.w3.org/2012/07/26-html-wg-minutes.html
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HTML Weekly Teleconference
26 Jul 2012
Attendees
Present
Paul, Sam, Glenn, plh, Jay, Janina, Eliot, Matthew, Ted,
Laura
Regrets
Kris
Chair
Paul
Scribe
plh
Contents
* [2]Topics
1. [3]Action items
2. [4]New issues
3. [5]Items that closed last week
4. [6]Items Closing This Week
5. [7]Items Closing Next Week
6. [8]New Calls this Week
7. [9]New Surveys this week
8. [10]Decisions this week
9. [11]Task Force Reports
10. [12]Other Business
11. [13]Scribe for next meeting
* [14]Summary of Action Items
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Action items
none
New issues
none
Items that closed last week
issue-199?
<trackbot> ISSUE-199 -- Define complete processing requirements
for ARIA attributes -- open
<trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199
[15] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/199
Paul: we have a WG decision later in the agenda
issue-200?
<trackbot> ISSUE-200 -- Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND)
in non-FIELDSET elements -- open
<trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200
[16] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/200
Paul: now in Chairs hands
issue-189?
<trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be
coordinated with IETF -- open
<trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
[17] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
Paul: now in Chairs hands
Items Closing This Week
issue-131?
<trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to
canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
<trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
[18] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
Paul: we sent a request to update proposals by Jul 24
... and we received multiple requests for extension, while
adsorbing the decision on issue 205
<rubys>
[19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/017
8.html
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/0178.html
<rubys> extension was granted to August 3 by mjs
Paul: so it's on hold until the Chairs see the reaction
... apologizes to Silvia for spelling her name wrong in the
announcement btw
issue-194?
<trackbot> ISSUE-194 -- Provide a mechanism for associating a
full transcript with an audio or video element. -- open
<trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194
[20] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/194
Paul: this one is closing today
issue-183?
<trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element
-- open
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
[21] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
Paul: CfC closes tomorrow
... no responses so far
issue-206?
<trackbot> ISSUE-206 -- Should HTML5 have a meta generator
exception to the alt requirement? -- open
<trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/206
[22] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/206
Paul: Call for counter proposals closes on July 27
... and Ted is interested in writing one
Items Closing Next Week
none
New Calls this Week
none
New Surveys this week
none
Decisions this week
Paul: we have one on issue 199
... see
[23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/012
2.html
[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/0122.html
Task Force Reports
Paul: written report from Kris on test suite tf
... see
[24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce
/2012JulSep/0014.html
... next is a11 tf report
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JulSep/0014.html
Janina: 205, sorry about the delay. we're looking into it. not
clear we'll ask for reconsideration
... some statements in the decision that people may want to
respond in the record
... might come back in that question in html.next
... we agreed to answer by august 3rd
... we're moving forward on most of the remaining issues
... where are we on 204 and 201?
Paul: hold on for those twos. later in the agenda
Janina: also trying to figure the implementations for HTML for
A11y api
... no report ready for wider review yet
Paul: next one is the media group sub-group
... we're meeting every Tuesday, alternating the proposals
... both of the original submission are being changed
substantial to use a more OO approach
... taking longer than expected
... by the end of august, we'll have new revisions
... and get to some of the other bugs, which are on hold at the
moment
... objectives is to bring the proposals back to the WG and
possibly as first FPWD
... next week is Media Source Extensions
... see public-html-media@w3.org
... some indication from a11y experts that there might be some
issues
... cf f2f discussions
Other Business
Paul: Proposed adaptive image element
... email thread starts at
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/012
3.html
... and a bug in
[26]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18384
... there seems to be interest in this feature, and whether it
belongs to HTML5 or HTML.next
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/0123.html
[26] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18384
plh: concerned about the time it will take to close on it.
safer to put it in HTML5
Paul: one of the co-chairs suggested filing a bug and we have
one now
Matthew: putting this off to HTML.next is problematic
... we could resolve issues quickly
<paulc>
[27]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-med
ia/encrypted-media.html
[27] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html
Paul: agreed. maybe we need a very concrete proposal, written
as an editor's draft
... and start having a technical discussion
... I'll like to encourage the CG to do the editor's draft,
then submit it
... possibly opening a new component in bugzilla
... get something in the mercurial space that correctly
reflects the sentiment of the CG
Ted: seems they should drive it to FSA
Paul: agreed, but we could start the technical discussion going
while the CG does the FSA step
... I'm happy to help on this
... I do believe that we should drive it like the media
extensions
Matthew: agreed
... what about having implementations?
Paul: you could but we might change the proposal later on
Matthew: we do have active interest from IE and Adobe on this
<scribe> ACTION: Paul to work with Matthew to get an editor's
draft submitted to the WG for proposed adaptive image element
[recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2012/07/26-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-220 - Work with Matthew to get an
editor's draft submitted to the WG for proposed adaptive image
element [on Paul Cotton - due 2012-08-02].
Matthew: I resubmitted this to the WHATWG, what does this mean
for this process?
Paul: we'll follow up offline
issue-195?
<trackbot> ISSUE-195 -- Enhance http request generation from
forms -- open
<trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195
[29] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/195
Paul: it seems we're ready for survey here
<rubys>
[30]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/020
7.html
[30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/0207.html
Sam: Cameron wants until the end of next week to see if it's
ready for survey
issue-201?
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 -- Provide canvas location and hit testing
capability to fallback content -- open
<trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
[31] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/201
Paul: some of the CP authors met on Tuesday and came up with a
merged proposal
... Steve has been working on it
... Frank and Ted need to look at it
Ted: will look into it by end of day tomorrow
Janina: thanks for the update
issue-204?
<trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule
that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
<trackbot> [32]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
[32] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
Paul: some discussion going on here
<rubys>
[33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/020
9.html
[33] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/0209.html
Ted: I removed the paragraph
Sam: I believe this is ready for survey
Paul: ok, so this is ready for survey. Expect one for 204 to go
out eminently
Janina: thanks for correcting the proposal. I'm happy with it
issue-164?
<trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open
<trackbot> [34]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
[34] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
Paul: I sent out 5 reviews earlier this week.
... we have responses on 3 emails
... 2 of them by August 3rd
... one of them will not be updated
... so on hold until August 3rd
... we'll continue to follow up
... and decide what to do with the CP that won't be updated by
the author
... next one is the charter revision
... plh sent an update
plh: it's in the hands of W3C management, then will go to the
AC
... expect approval by end of September
<paulc>
[35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/018
3.html
[35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jul/0183.html
Paul: we had the editors announcement yesterday
... we announced four individuals
... and we keep looking at the Canvas2D editors
... we'll get the editors on board and work through the backlog
... thank you to all applicants
... W3C has sponsorship for editorial position
... and the team and chairs are evaluating candidates
Scribe for next meeting
Paul: it's Sam turn next week
Glenn: I'll scribe next week
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Paul to work with Matthew to get an
editor's draft submitted to the WG for proposed adaptive image
element [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2012/07/26-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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