- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2012 10:30:00 -0600
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HTML Weekly Teleconference
22 Mar 2012
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0027.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2012/03/22-html-wg-irc
Attendees
Present
glenn, eliot, hober, Sam, +1.415.832.aaaa, krisk, paulc,
Judy, [Microsoft], adrianba, Cynthia_Shelly, tantek
Chair
sam (rubys)
Scribe
glenn
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]ACTION items due by Thursday, March 22
2. [6]New Issues This Week
3. [7]Items Closed Last Week
4. [8]Items Closing This Week
5. [9]Items Closing Next Week
6. [10]New Calls this week
7. [11]New Surveys this week
8. [12]Decisions this week
9. [13]Task Force Reports
10. [14]Other Business
11. [15]Scribe for next meeting
12. [16]Adjournment
* [17]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
<trackbot> Date: 22 March 2012
<tantek> greetings
morning
<scribe> Scribe: glenn
<tantek> now that is hilarious
i guess i should talk to myself at this point ... ;)
<rubys> trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 22 March 2012
<scribe> Chair: rubys
<scribe> Scribe: glenn
<scribe> Agenda:
[18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce
/2012JanMar/0027.html
[18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012JanMar/0027.html
ACTION items due by Thursday, March 22
None
New Issues This Week
None
Items Closed Last Week
ISSUE-187: validity-stability, Agree/Disagree to Amicable
Resolution closed Mar 13
[19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/022
5.html
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0225.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-187 Document conformance has to be stable over
the time notes added
rubys: no objections
ISSUE-80 was incorrectly included
<rubys>
[20]http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-080
[20] http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-080
ISSUE-131: caret-location-API, Call for Counter Proposals
closed Mar 14
[21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/020
9.html
[21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0209.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-131 Should we add a caret location API to
canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? notes added
ISSUE-158: object-content-model, Call for Counter Proposals
closes Mar 14
[22]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/019
8.html
[22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0198.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-158 HTML4's content-model for <object> should
continue notes added
ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas, Call for Counter Proposals
closed Mar 14
[23]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/020
8.html
[23] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0208.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-205 Define what author guidance and/or methods
should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text
editors using canvas as a rendering surface. notes added
ISSUE-179: av_param, Agree/Disagree to Amicable Resolution
closed Mar 15
[24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/027
7.html
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0277.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-179 {audio,video} require param child (or
equivalent) notes added
Items Closing This Week
ISSUE-193: inaccessible-example, Call for Counter Proposals
closes Mar 21
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026
4.html
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0264.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-193 Remove CSS example that promotes
inaccessible content notes added
rubys: will go to CfC shortly
ISSUE-194: full-transcript, Call for Counter Proposals closes
Mar 21
[26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026
6.html
[26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0266.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-194 Provide a mechanism for associating a full
transcript with an audio or video element. notes added
rubys: have two extension requests
ISSUE-195: form-http-req, Call for Counter Proposals closes Mar
21
[27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026
3.html
[27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0263.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-195 Enhance http request generation from forms
notes added
rubys: two proposals, chairs will evaluate
ISSUE-196: ua-http-resp-handling, Call for Counter Proposals
closes Mar 21
[28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026
8.html
[28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0268.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-196 Define user agent http response handling
behaviour notes added
rubys: no counters, next step CfC
ISSUE-197: accept-file-ext, Call for Counter Proposals closes
Mar 21
<trackbot> ISSUE-197 Accept attribute should allow file
extensions in addition to the current allowed values notes
added
[29]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026
5.html
[29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0265.html
ISSUE-199: aria-processing, Call for Counter Proposals closes
Mar 21
[30]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026
9.html
[30] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0269.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-199 Define complete processing requirements
for ARIA attributes notes added
rubys: will evaluate
ISSUE-201: canvas-fallback, Call for Counter Proposals closes
Mar 21
[31]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/026
7.html
[31] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0267.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-201 Provide canvas location and hit testing
capability to fallback content notes added
rubys: has ext request
ISSUE-190: coding-example, Call for Consensus closes Mar 23
[32]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/046
3.html
[32] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0463.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-190 Replace poor coding example for figure
with multiple images notes added
rubys: CfC closes tomorrow
Items Closing Next Week
ISSUE-80: title-alternative, Call for Consensus closes Mar 28
[33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/060
3.html
[33] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0603.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-80 document conformance and device dependent
display of title attribute content notes added
ISSUE-134: tab-states, Revise Change Proposals closes Mar 28
[34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/054
7.html
[34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0547.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-134 Provide tablist and tab states for menu
and command elements respectively notes added
ISSUE-191: ins-del, Revise Change Proposals closes Mar 28
[35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/012
8.html
[35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0128.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-191 Replace/complement <ins> and <del>
elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution
notes added
ISSUE-200: legend-placement, Call for Counter Proposals closes
Mar 28
[36]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/046
6.html
[36] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0466.html
<trackbot> ISSUE-200 Allow wrapping LEGEND (or new iLEGEND) in
non-FIELDSET elements notes added
New Calls this week
None
rubys: double checking...
... two issued
... that weren't in agenda
<rubys>
[37]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/060
2.html
[37] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0602.html
ISSUE-204?
<trackbot> ISSUE-204 -- Exempt ARIA attributes from the rule
that prohibits reference to hidden elements -- open
<trackbot> [38]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
[38] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/204
rubys: call for alternate CPs or counter CPs
<rubys>
[39]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/060
3.html
[39] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0603.html
ISSUE-80?
<trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device
dependent display of title attribute content -- open
<trackbot> [40]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
[40] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
rubys: CfC
New Surveys this week
None
Decisions this week
Close ISSUE-170 rel-uri-valid by Amicable Resolution
[41]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055
3.html
[41] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0553.html
Close ISSUE-179 av_param by Amicable Resolution
[42]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055
4.html
[42] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0554.html
Close ISSUE-182 footnote-recommendation by Amicable Resolution
[43]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055
5.html
[43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0555.html
Close ISSUE-187 validity-stability by Amicable Resolution
[44]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055
6.html
[44] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0556.html
Close ISSUE-188: generic-track-format by Amicable Resolution
[45]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055
7.html
[45] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0557.html
Close ISSUE-192 title-attribute by Amicable Resolution
[46]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/055
8.html
[46] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0558.html
rubys: questions or comments?
Task Force Reports
Testing Task Force
krisk: met last week, will meet again on 27th
<krisk> Notes ->
[47]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2
012Mar/0005.html
[47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Mar/0005.html
krisk: won't fix bug that existed
<krisk>
[48]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15042
[48] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=15042
krisk: canvas tests, listed in notes
<krisk> Microsoft submitting some Progress and Range Tests
rubys: questions?
Accessibility Task Force
janina: two main items
<scribe> ... new canvas section coming from editor
UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: not everything is clear, but one thing is
clear: straying into approaches inconsistent with html5 time
line
... at least for good a11y support
... so this is a concern
... second avenue, aria attribute (ARIA 1.1) draft...
... like longdesc (ISSUE-30)
... summarize as some people still want to develop longdesc
... the describe-at attr should apply to more elements than img
... aimed at markup, not just html
... e.g. svg
... not quite settled
... maybe 'obsolete but conforming' is acceptable
... a11y still thinks longdesc is needed today
... longdesc is implemented, but inconsistently
... that's it for now
rubys: doesn't believe current proposals describe longdesc as
obsolete but conforming
janina: correct
rubys: may need new CP or modification
janina: expects laura is not in favor of "that"
... can beef up proposals
<Judy> s/"that"/obsolete but conforming
janina: not to fix described-by but fix ?
... come up with other additional attribute
<Judy> s/"that?"/obsolete but conforming/
janina: thinks current CP covers problem with described-by
rubys: questions? comments?
judy: side note: janina has coord request with Paul, but trying
to schedule
paulc: glad to try
rubys: other questions? comments?
Other Business
CfC: Publish ten heartbeat drafts as WDs
[49]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/024
7.html
[49] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0247.html
Revert request r7023
[50]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/049
1.html
[50] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0491.html
rubys: extension request, chairs trying to sort out
F2F registration page
[51]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/048
8.html
[51] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0488.html
rubys: everybody should register
... AOB?
adrianba: ISSUE-180?
ISSUE-180?
<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox
-- open
<trackbot> [52]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
[52] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
<adrianba>
[53]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/051
1.html
[53] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Mar/0511.html
scribe: unable to implement decision due to lack of information
... CP should have all details
... no feedback stating otherwise
... wonders about status of this work
rubys: not yet applied to spec
... knows of no specific request for clarification, etc.
Scribe for next meeting
paulc: will be chairing
rubys: is ted available for next meeting?
ted: yes
... volunteers for next meeting
Adjournment
adjourned
trackbot, end meeting
Summary of Action Items
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