- From: Edward O'Connor <eoconnor@apple.com>
- Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:36:21 -0800
- To: public-html-wg-announce@w3.org
Paul wrote:
> The HTML Working Group will have its usual weekly teleconference on
> 2012-01-26 for up to 60 minutes from 17:00Z to 18:00Z.
The minutes for this week's teleconference are available in HTML at
http://www.w3.org/2012/01/26-html-wg-minutes.html
or in plain text below.
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2012/01/26-html-wg-irc
Attendees
Present
Regrets
Chair
paulc
Scribe
hober
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Action items due by Thursday, January 26
2. [5]New Issues This Week
3. [6]Items Closed Last Week
4. [7]Items Closing This Week
5. [8]Items Closing Next Week
6. [9]New Calls this week
7. [10]New Surveys this week
8. [11]Decisions this week
9. [12]Task Force Reports
10. [13]Testing Task Force report
11. [14]Accessibility Task Force report
12. [15]Other Business
13. [16]Revised Timeline and New Bug Priority Policy
14. [17]Chair and Scribe for next meeting
15. [18]Revised Timeline and New Bug Priority Policy
16. [19]Adjournment
* [20]Summary of Action Items
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<scribe> ScribeNick: hober
Action items due by Thursday, January 26
paulc: there aren't any
... the one oustanding action item is due next week
New Issues This Week
ISSUE-203?
<trackbot> ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the ability
to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the
element -- raised
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203
[21] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203
paulc: there's a call for change proposals out
Items Closed Last Week
ISSUE-180?
<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox --
open
<trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
[22] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
paulc: no objections to the CfC
ISSUE-181?
<trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation --
open
<trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
[23] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
paulc: no objections to the CfC
ISSUE-187?
<trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over
the time -- open
<trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
[24] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
paulc: we have a change proposals, so there's a call for alternate
proposals
ISSUE-190?
<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with
multiple images -- open
<trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
[25] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
paulc: we have a change proposal
ISSUE-191?
<trackbot> ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements
by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- open
<trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
[26] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
paulc: closed on 1/21, we have a change proposal
ISSUE-192?
<trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match
reality -- open
<trackbot> [27]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
[27] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
paulc: call for change proposals closed on 1/21
Items Closing This Week
paulc: due to christmas break, there are none
Items Closing Next Week
paulc: there are none
New Calls this week
ISSUE-187?
<trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over
the time -- open
<trackbot> [28]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
[28] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
paulc: call for alternate change proposals closes on 2/23
<Clarke> +Clarke_Stevens
ISSUE-190?
<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with
multiple images -- open
<trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
[29] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
paulc: we have a single change proposal; call for counter change
proposals closes on 2/23
ISSUE-191?
<trackbot> ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements
by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- open
<trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
[30] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
paulc: call for counter change proposals closes on 2/23
ISSUE-192?
<trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match
reality -- open
<trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
[31] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
paulc: call for alternate or counter change proposals closes on
2/23, we have a single proposal
... we encourage wg members to discuss these on public-html
... early filing of counter proposals is encouraged
New Surveys this week
paulc: there aren't any
Decisions this week
ISSUE-180?
<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox --
open
<trackbot> [32]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
[32] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
ISSUE-181?
<trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation --
open
<trackbot> [33]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
[33] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
paulc: both have been closed by amicable consensus because there
were no objections
... the related bugs will be so marked & the editor has been asked
to make the changes
Task Force Reports
Testing Task Force report
krisk: met last week on the 17th
<krisk> Meeting Notes ->
[34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Ja
n/0004.html
[34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Jan/0004.html
krisk: slow month, but a few more test submissions came in
... jgraham is helping with test reviews
... we meet again next week
... sent a mail to the testing list updating our schedule through
the end of july & updated wiki about same
<krisk>
[35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Ja
n/0005.html
[35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Jan/0005.html
paulc: do you have a page that describes the current test suite
status?
<krisk> [36]http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/
[36] http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/
<krisk> [37]http://w3c-test.org/html/
[37] http://w3c-test.org/html/
Accessibility Task Force report
MikeSmith: we met today
<MikeSmith>
[38]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/027
0.html
[38] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0270.html
<MikeSmith> [39]http://www.w3.org/2012/01/26-html-a11y-minutes.html
[39] http://www.w3.org/2012/01/26-html-a11y-minutes.html
MikeSmith: we talked about the <meta name=generator> cp steve f. has
been working on
... the spec has an exception for image alternative text if there's
a <meta name=generator> element in the doc
... CP will advocate for removing this exception
... tentative resolution to endorse this CP
... TF asking steve to fix up the negative effects section
... also talked about revert request laura submitted yesterday
... no resolution
... a11y tf has a number of sub teams
... the bug triage team was quite active at the end of the year
... many bugs have been open for a long time in NEEDSINFO state
... some in NEEDSINFO for a year or more
... we're going to remind folk to supply requested information on
these bugs
<MikeSmith> [40]http://www.w3.org/2012/01/19-html-a11y-minutes.html
[40] http://www.w3.org/2012/01/19-html-a11y-minutes.html
Cynthia: a11y api mapping is coming along, would like feedback from
test tf
MikeSmith: we have a sub team working on a implementors guide for
a11y platform api mappings
<MikeSmith>
[41]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-api-map/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
[41] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-api-map/raw-file/tip/Overview.html
<MikeSmith> HTML to Platform Accessibility APIs Implementation
Guide: A user agent developer's guide to understanding and
implementing accessibility support in HTML
Other Business
ISSUE-177?
<trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be
given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- open
<trackbot> [42]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177
[42] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177
krisk: are they looking for someone to write tests for the mapping
doc?
MikeSmith: they'd like a conversation with you about this
paulc: ISSUE-177, re-issued call for input from Chairs
... item is still pending, would like more feedback from wg members
[43]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0132.htm
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[43] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0132.html
<paulc> DP bug:
[44]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13263
[44] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13263
ISSUE-30?
<trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute
for images -- open
<trackbot> [45]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
[45] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
paulc:
[46]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/023
1.html
... mjs has given current status of this issue on the a11y list
... chairs are continuing to work on finalizing their review of the
cp
[46] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0231.html
Revised Timeline and New Bug Priority Policy
paulc: rich and the a11y tf have asked for the schedule to be
revisited given upcoming events
... chairs have replied
... chairs would like to get a concrete proposal
... it's hard to get others to respond without there being a
concrete proposal on the table
... laura's revert request
<paulc>
[47]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0136.htm
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[47] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0136.html
paulc: the chairs can't convene until early next week due to travel
etc.
<paulc> The Chairs will process this request early next week when we
can convene a meeting with all three co-chairs present.
Chair and Scribe for next meeting
paulc: it's mjs's turn to chair next week
... volunteers to scribe?
paulc tentatively volunteers
Revised Timeline and New Bug Priority Policy
paulc: summarizes previous conversation to rich
... sam asked for a concrete proposal
<paulc> see
[48]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0113.htm
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[48] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0113.html
<paulc> "If you would like us to consider a change, making a
concrete proposal "
richardschwerdtfe: my main justification is, if we have counter
proposals, will we have time to address them in that 1 month period
paulc: please respond to sam
... would help to paramaterize, e.g. "if we get 10 CPs, we could use
N weeks instead of 4 weeks"
richardschwerdtfe: sounds fair
Adjournment
paulc: we are adjourned
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