- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:39:49 -0600
- To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
- Cc: "public-html-wg-announce@w3.org" <public-html-wg-announce@w3.org>, HTML WG LIST <public-html@w3.org>
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HTML Weekly Teleconference
31 May 2012
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0024.html
Attendees
Present
yang, glenn, Aaron, David_Dorwin, hober, jaymunro, paulc,
Mike, +1.425.614.aaaa, Janina, Cynthia_Shelly, Clarke, [Microsoft],
eliot, +1.858.677.aabb, adrianba
Regrets
Chair
paulc
Scribe
glenn
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]ACTION items due by Thursday, May 31
2. [5]New Issues This Week
3. [6]Items Closed this Week
4. [7]Items Closed Last Week
5. [8]Items Closing Next Week
6. [9]New Calls this Week
7. [10]New Surveys this Week
8. [11]Decisions this Week
9. [12]AOB
10. [13]Scribe for Next Meeting
11. [14]adjournment
* [15]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
trackbot, start meeting
<trackbot> Date: 31 May 2012
<scribe> Scribe: glenn
<Yang> hi, I am from Huawei, my name is Sun Yang,first to the
CC, nice to meet you all, :)
欢迎 yang, we will be starting in about 15 mins, when the chair
joins
<Yang> thanks a lot ,how you type "欢迎"？and the sip phone
promote to input the number, is the tel number or conference
code?
<Yang> ok, I am in....
<Yang> why appear ??p1? I have used english name in Ekiga....
<Yang> It seems no body there
you asked how i typed 欢迎, i said i used an IME on my Mac
<Yang> smart
我可以写汉字
<Yang> how you do that? you must know how to pronouce it
<Yang> 这么厉害，佩服佩服
我也会说汉语
<Yang> which company are you from?
i represent Cox Communications in this WG
<Yang> nice to meet you glenn, expressive, chinese seems not so
difficult to learn
<Yang> there is no screen sharing here, right?
我8年的中文研究, correct, no screen sharing
<Yang> why you study chinese? for fun?
long story ;)
<Yang> it seems not so many people here...
<Yang> right, Yang from Huawei
<paulc> Agenda:
[16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce
/2012AprJun/0024.html
[16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0024.html
ACTION items due by Thursday, May 31
ACTION-211?
<trackbot> ACTION-211 -- Sam Ruby to ted O'Connor to write up a
video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 --
due 2012-05-26 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/211
[17] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/211
ACTION-211: Ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref
proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 [Sam Ruby]
<trackbot> ACTION-211 Ted O'Connor to write up a
video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11
notes added
paulc: done
<paulc>
[18]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/015
8.html
[18] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0158.html
paulc: this ISSUE-194 was discussed at F2F, just sent email on
this
... asks ted to respond
<paulc>
[19]http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-194
[19] http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-194
paulc: there are two CPs listed
... Zero CP, then transcript attribute proposal
believes latter will be withdrawn
ACTION-213?
<trackbot> ACTION-213 -- Sam Ruby to get JF to deliver a
revised ISSUE-194 change proposal by next friday -- due
2012-05-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/213
[20] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/213
<paulc>
[21]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/TranscriptElement
[21] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/TranscriptElement
scribe: a11y is working on new proposal, coming out of F2F
... believes both 211 and 213 are done
... requests ted to respond
... draws people's attention to ...
<paulc>
[22]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/TranscriptElement#
Obsoletes_the_following_Change_Proposals:
[22] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/TranscriptElement#Obsoletes_the_following_Change_Proposals:
scribe: above link
... obsoletes older proposal
close ACTION-211
<trackbot> ACTION-211 Ted O'Connor to write up a
video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11
closed
close ACTION-213
<trackbot> ACTION-213 Get JF to deliver a revised ISSUE-194
change proposal by next friday closed
janina: not fully settled on current draft, put out CfC on
tuesday, objections from one person, thinks can address, work
in process
... will wait for objection to be addressed
paulc: will need to figure out how to carry ISSUE-194 forward
ACTION-218?
<trackbot> ACTION-218 -- Paul Cotton to determine day and time
for a weekly Media teleconference -- due 2012-05-22 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [23]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/218
[23] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/218
ACTION-218: Determine day and time for a weekly Media
teleconference[Paul Cotton]
<trackbot> ACTION-218 Determine day and time for a weekly Media
teleconference notes added
<paulc> Done. See:
[24]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/016
2.html
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0162.html
<Yang> the media meeting is for media element relative
dicussion?
paulc: done, and sent out message; 1100AM Eastern Time, starts
12JUNE
... will work with editors to build agenda; paul and mike
working on infra support
... thanks mike for heavy lifting
close ACTION-218
<trackbot> ACTION-218 Determine day and time for a weekly Media
teleconference closed
scribe: questions?
... survey is now public
<paulc> See
[25]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/016
2.html for references to proposals and outstanding bugs
[25] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0162.html
yang: asked for info on purpose of media sub-group
paulc: refers to link cited above
ACTION-212?
<trackbot> ACTION-212 -- Michael[tm] Smith to draft revised
HTML WG charter for May 31 -- due 2012-05-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [26]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/212
[26] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/212
ACTION-212: Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31
[Michael[tm] Smith]
<trackbot> ACTION-212 Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31
notes added
mike: needs to review minutes of F2F
... doesn't plan to share draft until plh looks at it, but plh
won't return for another week
ACTION-212: due 2012-06-14
<trackbot> ACTION-212 Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31
notes added
<paulc>
[27]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/016
0.html
[27] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0160.html
ACTION-216?
<trackbot> ACTION-216 -- Michael Cooper to update ISSUE-199
proposal based on Ted's -- due 2012-05-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [28]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/216
[28] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/216
ACTION-216: Update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's [Michael
Cooper]
<trackbot> ACTION-216 Update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's
notes added
paulc: ted, can you review michael cooper's proposal?
ted: will attempt to make time
janina: thought we could get down to one proposal
ted: needs to review to see if there is any area of
disagreement
paulc: would like to assign action to ted to review
ACTION hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - hober
ACTION edward to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - edward
close ACTION-216
<trackbot> ACTION-216 Update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's
closed
New Issues This Week
none
Items Closed this Week
none
Items Closed Last Week
none
Items Closing Next Week
ISSUE-203?
<trackbot> ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the
ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions
associated to the element -- open
<trackbot> [29]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203
[29] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203
<paulc>
[30]http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-203
[30] http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-203
ISSUE-203: media-descriptions, Write Alternate or
Counter-Proposal closes Jun 10
<trackbot> ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability
to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated
to the element notes added
New Calls this Week
none
New Surveys this Week
ISSUE-205?
<trackbot> ISSUE-205 -- Define what author guidance and/or
methods should be provided to those that wish to create
accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. --
open
<trackbot> [31]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/205
[31] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/205
ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas - Straw Poll for Objections
<trackbot> ISSUE-205 Define what author guidance and/or methods
should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text
editors using canvas as a rendering surface. notes added
paulc: closes end of thursday next week
... june 7
... any comments janina?
janina: nothing to report at this time
<MikeSmith> ACTION: member to hober to Review Michael Cooper's
CP for ISSUE-199 [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax
Decisions this Week
none
AOB
31c re-open request review
<MikeSmith> ACTION hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for
ISSUE-199
[33]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Ma
y/0094.html
[33] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012May/0094.html
already there...
<MikeSmith> ACTION: hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for
ISSUE-199a [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - hober
paulc: 31c still pending
HTML-A11Y Task Force Consensus on Issue-204
<MikeSmith> trackbot, reload
[35]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/007
8.html
[35] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0078.html
janina: not at consensus yet
<paulc>
[36]http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-204
[36] http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-204
janina: PF has objection, late yesterday
<paulc> see
[37]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/015
6.html
[37] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0156.html
janina: re: 2119 normative language on UAs regarding aria
markup
... doesn't know if closer to consensus or not
paulc: see link above for the email in question
ted: exchange was useful, getting closer to agreement, but
nothing more specific yet
paulc: chairs and TF coordinator met earlier this week, ball is
in chair's court re: objections from F2F
<MikeSmith> trackbot, init
Update on Editor Search
[38]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/008
6.html
[38] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0086.html
paulc: nothing new, plh is away, continuing to work on it
Bulk of W3C's server infrastructure is at MIT CSAIL and will be
impacted by a planned network outage on Sat-Sun June 9-10
<MikeSmith> ACTION: hober to review Michael Cooper's CP for
ISSUE-199a [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - hober
[40]http://tig.csail.mit.edu/wiki/TIG/2012NetworkOutage
[40] http://tig.csail.mit.edu/wiki/TIG/2012NetworkOutage
paulc: N.B. outage in servers noted above
Scribe for Next Meeting
paulc: sam will be chairing
if nobody else, i can do so
adjournment
adjourned
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for
ISSUE-199a [recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: hober to review Michael Cooper's CP for
ISSUE-199a [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: member to hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for
ISSUE-199 [recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>wrote:
> The HTML Working Group will have its usual weekly teleconference on
> 2012-05-31 for up to 60 minutes from 16:00Z to 17:00Z.****
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> http://timeanddate.com/s/28p4****
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> New Jersey/York 12:00, Kansas City 11:00, Seattle/San Francisco 09:00.****
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> Chair of the meeting: Paul Cotton****
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> Scribe: Glenn Adams****
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> (See the end of this email for dial-in and IRC info.)****
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> == Agenda ==****
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> 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, May 31****
>
> ** **
>
> a) ACTION-211: Ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref proposal
> for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 [Sam Ruby]****
>
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/211****
>
> ** **
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> b) ACTION-218: Determine day and time for a weekly Media
> teleconference[Paul Cotton]****
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> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/218****
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> c) ACTION-212: Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 [Michael[tm] Smith]
> ****
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> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/212****
>
> ** **
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> d) ACTION-213: Get JF to deliver a revised ISSUE-194 change proposal by
> next friday [Sam Ruby]****
>
> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/213****
>
> ** **
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> e) ACTION-216: Update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's [Michael Cooper]**
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> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/216****
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> ** **
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> 2. New Issues This Week:****
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> None****
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> There is 1 tracker request****
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> http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
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> 3. Items Closed Last Week****
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> None****
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> 4. Items Closing This Week****
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> None****
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> 5. Items Closing Next Week****
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> ** **
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> a) ISSUE-203: media-descriptions, Write Alternate or Counter-Proposal
> closes Jun 10****
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0071.html****
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> ** **
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> 6. New Calls this week****
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> None****
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> ** **
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> 7. New Surveys this week****
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> ** **
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> a) ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas - Straw Poll for Objections****
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> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0155.html ****
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> 8. Decisions this week****
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> None.****
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> 9. Other Business****
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> a) 31c re-open request review****
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> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012May/0094.html****
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> b) HTML-A11Y Task Force Consensus on Issue-204****
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0078.html ****
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> ** **
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> c) Update on Editor Search****
>
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0086.html ****
>
> ** **
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> d) Bulk of W3C's server infrastructure is at MIT CSAIL and will be
> impacted by a planned network outage on Sat-Sun June 9-10****
>
> http://tig.csail.mit.edu/wiki/TIG/2012NetworkOutage****
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> 10. Scribe for next meeting****
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> 11. Adjournment****
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> == Dial-in and IRC Details ==****
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