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{minutes} HTML WG telcon 2008-10-02

From: Michael(tm) Smith <mike@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:09:56 +0900
To: public-html-wg-announce@w3.org
Message-ID: <20081003090956.GA30897@toro.w3.mag.keio.ac.jp>

http://www.w3.org/2008/10/02-html-wg-minutes.html

   Present
          ChrisWilson DanC Julian Laura MikeSmith Nikunj AnneVK
          DaveSinger ShawnMedero

   Regrets
          Joshue, Cynthia

   Chair
          MikeSmith

   Scribe
          MikeSmith

Contents

     * Topics
         1. f2f agenda
         2. http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda
     * Summary of Action Items
     _________________________________________________________

f2f agenda

   Nikunj: [comments in general support of un-conference stuff]

   <Julian> MikeSmith: wants to use the F2F to make progress on test
   cases

   <Julian> MikeSmith: proposes joint meeting with TAG

   MikeSmith: first part of the morning on Thursday will be a joint f2f
   discussion with the TAG

   <Julian> Joint meeting with TAG would be great

   <smedero> An agenda would be good...

   <smedero> as I believe TAG has a number of issues with HTML 5... not
   sure we can cover them all in a morning session.

   - Treatment of URLs in the HTML5 specification

   - Content-type determination

   also possibly:

   - Embedding of HTML in other languages

   - Modularity of the HTML 5 spec

   <Julian> - Modularity of spec (wrt other W3C and IETF specs)

   <Julian> MikeSmith: explains W3C process with respect to advancing
   the spec and resolving issues with the TAG and the Director

   <Julian> - relation to XHTML

   <Julian> ?

   <Laura> PFWG F2F topics of potential interest:

   <Laura>
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0512.html

       http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0512.html

   <pimpbot> Title: minor tweak to FYI PFWG F2F topics of potential
   interest from Al Gilman on 2008-09-30 (public-html@w3.org from
   September 2008) (at lists.w3.org)

   <Laura> Al specifically asked to discuss tables with PF at the F2F:

   <Laura>
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0362.html

       http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0362.html

   <pimpbot> Title: function and impacts (was: scope and headers
   reform) from Al Gilman on 2008-09-14 (public-html@w3.org from
   September 2008) (at lists.w3.org)

   <Julian> MikeSmith: desire of authors to use ARIA as currently
   implemented with HTML4 and validate it

   <Julian> MikeSmith: Henri's validator.nu already does it for HTML5
   (using RelaxNG+Java)

   <Julian> MikeSmith: some people want DTD-based validation though

   <Julian> MikeSmith: also more work needs to be done to describe
   precise semantics of ARIA in HTML

   <Laura> The idea of a extension or bookmarklet for ARIA seems good.

   <Laura> Henri's suggestion of serializing the DOM and sending it to
   an external service could work equally as well. But it doesn't have
   to be his service.

   <Laura> The Web Developer extension in Firefox has an option to
   validate the local HTML, and that works by sending the generated
   source to the validator, which is the same idea.

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda

      http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda

   <pimpbot> Title: Input for Agenda Planning for the HTML Issue
   Tracking - HTML Issue Tracking Tracker (at www.w3.org)

   <Laura> Chris: Last week for action 72 @headers, you mentioned that
   you would "follow this up. Get the issues into the wiki and continue
   discussion until there is a consensus. If opinion is very entrenched
   then we will have a poll."

   <Laura> http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20080925#l-347

      http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20080925#l-347

   <pimpbot> Title: IRC logs: w3c / #html-wg / 20080925 (at
   krijnhoetmer.nl)

   <Laura> The Wiki has been updated to try to cover all perspectives.

   <Laura> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/IssueTableHeaders

      http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/IssueTableHeaders

   <Laura> I also invited James and Henri's input.

   <Laura>
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0506.htm
   l

      http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0506.html

   <pimpbot> Title: HTML/IssueTableHeaders - ESW Wiki (at esw.w3.org)

   <pimpbot> Title: Re: headers Wiki page from Laura Carlson on
   2008-09-30 (public-html@w3.org from September 2008) (at
   lists.w3.org)

   anybody have comments or question about open actions/issues in the
   Tracker dashboard page at the URL above?

   <smedero> Laura, is that poll mention in
   http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/76 ?

      http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/76

   <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-76 - HTML Issue Tracking Tracker (at
   www.w3.org)

   <smedero> ahh, that's the @summary..

   <Laura> Al asked discuss tables at the F2F

   <Laura>
   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0362.htm
   l

      http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Sep/0362.html

   <pimpbot> Title: function and impacts (was: scope and headers
   reform) from Al Gilman on 2008-09-14 (public-html@w3.org from
   September 2008) (at lists.w3.org)

   <smedero> SM: I remember the Sept. publishing goal was pushed back
   ... and I think we're now in the publishing moratorium?

   <anne> MS: There are ongoing internal discussions that haven't been
   resolved yet

   <anne> MS: We're not going to publish the HTML5 draft before TPAC

   [End of minutes]

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