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{minutes} HTML WG telcon 2008-10-02

From: Michael(tm) Smith <mike@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 18:09:56 +0900
To: public-html-wg-announce@w3.org
Message-ID: <20081003090956.GA30897@toro.w3.mag.keio.ac.jp>


          ChrisWilson DanC Julian Laura MikeSmith Nikunj AnneVK
          DaveSinger ShawnMedero

          Joshue, Cynthia




     * Topics
         1. f2f agenda
         2. http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/agenda
     * Summary of Action Items

f2f agenda

   Nikunj: [comments in general support of un-conference stuff]

   <Julian> MikeSmith: wants to use the F2F to make progress on test

   <Julian> MikeSmith: proposes joint meeting with TAG

   MikeSmith: first part of the morning on Thursday will be a joint f2f
   discussion with the TAG

   <Julian> Joint meeting with TAG would be great

   <smedero> An agenda would be good...

   <smedero> as I believe TAG has a number of issues with HTML 5... not
   sure we can cover them all in a morning session.

   - Treatment of URLs in the HTML5 specification

   - Content-type determination

   also possibly:

   - Embedding of HTML in other languages

   - Modularity of the HTML 5 spec

   <Julian> - Modularity of spec (wrt other W3C and IETF specs)

   <Julian> MikeSmith: explains W3C process with respect to advancing
   the spec and resolving issues with the TAG and the Director

   <Julian> - relation to XHTML

   <Julian> ?

   <Laura> PFWG F2F topics of potential interest:



   <pimpbot> Title: minor tweak to FYI PFWG F2F topics of potential
   interest from Al Gilman on 2008-09-30 (public-html@w3.org from
   September 2008) (at lists.w3.org)

   <Laura> Al specifically asked to discuss tables with PF at the F2F:



   <pimpbot> Title: function and impacts (was: scope and headers
   reform) from Al Gilman on 2008-09-14 (public-html@w3.org from
   September 2008) (at lists.w3.org)

   <Julian> MikeSmith: desire of authors to use ARIA as currently
   implemented with HTML4 and validate it

   <Julian> MikeSmith: Henri's validator.nu already does it for HTML5
   (using RelaxNG+Java)

   <Julian> MikeSmith: some people want DTD-based validation though

   <Julian> MikeSmith: also more work needs to be done to describe
   precise semantics of ARIA in HTML

   <Laura> The idea of a extension or bookmarklet for ARIA seems good.

   <Laura> Henri's suggestion of serializing the DOM and sending it to
   an external service could work equally as well. But it doesn't have
   to be his service.

   <Laura> The Web Developer extension in Firefox has an option to
   validate the local HTML, and that works by sending the generated
   source to the validator, which is the same idea.



   <pimpbot> Title: Input for Agenda Planning for the HTML Issue
   Tracking - HTML Issue Tracking Tracker (at www.w3.org)

   <Laura> Chris: Last week for action 72 @headers, you mentioned that
   you would "follow this up. Get the issues into the wiki and continue
   discussion until there is a consensus. If opinion is very entrenched
   then we will have a poll."

   <Laura> http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20080925#l-347


   <pimpbot> Title: IRC logs: w3c / #html-wg / 20080925 (at

   <Laura> The Wiki has been updated to try to cover all perspectives.

   <Laura> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/IssueTableHeaders


   <Laura> I also invited James and Henri's input.



   <pimpbot> Title: HTML/IssueTableHeaders - ESW Wiki (at esw.w3.org)

   <pimpbot> Title: Re: headers Wiki page from Laura Carlson on
   2008-09-30 (public-html@w3.org from September 2008) (at

   anybody have comments or question about open actions/issues in the
   Tracker dashboard page at the URL above?

   <smedero> Laura, is that poll mention in
   http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/76 ?


   <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-76 - HTML Issue Tracking Tracker (at

   <smedero> ahh, that's the @summary..

   <Laura> Al asked discuss tables at the F2F



   <pimpbot> Title: function and impacts (was: scope and headers
   reform) from Al Gilman on 2008-09-14 (public-html@w3.org from
   September 2008) (at lists.w3.org)

   <smedero> SM: I remember the Sept. publishing goal was pushed back
   ... and I think we're now in the publishing moratorium?

   <anne> MS: There are ongoing internal discussions that haven't been
   resolved yet

   <anne> MS: We're not going to publish the HTML5 draft before TPAC

   [End of minutes]

Michael(tm) Smith
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