- From: Cory Doctorow <cory@eff.org>
- Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 06:13:09 -0800
- To: Philippe Le Hégaret <plh@w3.org>, Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "'public-html-media@w3.org'" <public-html-media@w3.org>, Tim Berners-Lee <timbl@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4ff6ac0c-302d-891c-8c27-723da7f7059f@eff.org>
Thanks, Philippe, but that doesn't really answer the question. There's a poll pending on the publication of EME. There is significant controversy over this -- and it's mounting. There is an absolute certainty that the poll will not have anything like consensus, meaning that Tim will have the final say. Tim just published an op-ed that appears to prefigure the outcome of that poll, which has not taken place (and which is long overdue at this point). What should the members make of this situation? Is Tim still willing to listen to his members, or should we assume that regardless of the poll's outcome, he's already made up his mind? Because it's very hard to read it otherwise. I'm disappointed that it took 11 days to come up with this very cursory statement from the W3C. Also, can you clarify the confidential status of poll outcomes? I know that some of the 23 members who opposed charter renewal waived their right to confidentiality to me, and I published a list of those members, but some did not, and I was careful not to disclose totals because I had been previously warned that even oblique mentions of poll outcomes were covered by member confidentiality and could not be mentioned on public lists like this one (in that case, I merely disclosed an approximate *proportion* of votes in the poll, and was censured for breaching confidentiality). Are poll numbers disclosable now? Cory On 03/09/2017 06:01 AM, Philippe Le Hégaret wrote: > > >>>>> On 02/28/2017 02:10 PM, Cory Doctorow wrote: >>>>>> I'm interested in getting some clarity on what this post means. Is >>>>>> the >>>>>> Director saying that regardless of the AC's (eventual, as yet not >>>>>> scheduled) poll outcomes on EME publication, he's decided what will >>>>>> happen? > > The Director wasn't asked the question to approve EME as a > Recommendation and his blog isn't intended to presume on the outcome of > the review. However, given the 23 or so objections to the recent charter > extension request, it's important for Tim, using his Director's hat, to > engage in the general dialog on whether to do the work at the W3C and on > the technical implications in doing such work. We certainly don't want > to discourage the Director for engaging in dialog on such important issues. > > Philippe > >>>>>> >>>>>> Cory >>>>>> >>>>>> On 02/28/2017 12:29 PM, Paul Cotton wrote: >>>>>>> See https://www.w3.org/blog/2017/02/on-eme-in-html5/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> /paulc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HME WG Chair >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >> >> FOR PUBLIC SAFETY REASONS, THIS EMAIL HAS BEEN INTERCEPTED BY YOUR >> GOVERNMENT AND WILL BE RETAINED FOR FUTURE ANALYSIS >> >> -- >> >> Cory Doctorow >> doctorow@craphound.com >> Wickr: doctorow >> >> For avoidance of doubt: This email does not constitute permission to add >> me to your mailing list. >> >> blog: boingboing.net >> upcoming appearances: craphound.com/?page_id=4667 >> books (novels, collections graphic novels, essay collections): >> craphound.com >> latest nonfiction: Information Doesn't Want to Be Free >> latest graphic novel: In Real Life >> podcast: feeds.feedburner.com/doctorow_podcast >> latest novel: Homeland craphound.com/homeland >> latest short story collection: With a Little Help craphound.com/walh >> >> Join my mailing list and find out about upcoming books, stories, >> articles and appearances: >> >> http://www.ctyme.com/mailman/listinfo/doctorow >> >> READ CAREFULLY. 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