- From: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:00:22 +0200
- To: public-html-media@w3.org
- Message-ID: <469050bb-1f29-9dd0-c1f7-81eb4d0195dd@w3.org>
On 08/02/2016 03:00 AM, Paul Cotton wrote: > > > An individual who registers a Formal Objection /should/ cite > technical arguments and propose changes that would remove the Formal > Objection; > > http://www.w3.org/2015/Process-20150901/#WGArchiveMinorityViews > > > > Before I record your formal objection at [1] I would like to ensure > that your “proposed change” for your objection is understood. > > > There is prior art in HTML for similarly powerful and > privacy-invasive features such as the Geolocation API [4]. Thus, there > should be no procedural problem in requiring user consent and > disabling EME by default in all browsers. > > > > The reference you provide as a “prior art” precedent in [4] is in a > non-normative section of Geolocation API and it does NOT disable the > Geolocation API by default. Can you explain why you think this > reference is useful here? Are you suggesting similar text be added to > EME? If so could you suggest exact text that would remove your formal > objection? > The exact phrasing is " A conforming implementation of this specification must provide a mechanism that protects the user's privacy and this mechanism should ensure that no location information is made available through this API without the user's express permission" To clarify, I agree that the spec should have used capitalization: " A conforming implementation of this specification MUST provide a mechanism that protects the user's privacy and this mechanism should ensure that no location information is made available through this API without the user's express permission." However, I do believe that all browsers *do* indeed ask for user consent before using the Geolocation API and that it is disabled by default, which is clear prior art for EME. This is indeed the case on the browsers I use, but if others activate Geolocation API without user consent, please do inform me, as I don't use Microsoft products. The text I would add to the EME spec would be similar: "A conforming implementation of this specification MUST ensure that this API cannot be used without the user's express permission due to the inherent risks in the activation of a CDM in a user agent. The API MUST be disabled by default, and should only be activated when the user gives express consent and is fully informed on a per-origin basis." Given there is already a place where user consent MUST be asked in the EME spec (" User agents must ensure that users are fully informed and/or give explicit consent before Distinctive Identifier(s) are exposed, such as in messages from the Key System implementation"), there is no reason why this MUST can't be broadened. I would also remove the "or." The user must be fully informed AND give explicit consent. Furthermore, given this normative, testing for express user consent on a per-origin basis should be part of the test-suite. cheers, harry > > > /paulc > > HME WG Chair > > > > [1] https://dev.w3.org/html5/status/formal-objection-status.html > <https://dev.w3.org/html5/status/formal-objection-status.html> > > > > *From:*Harry Halpin [mailto:hhalpin@w3.org] > *Sent:* Monday, August 1, 2016 6:42 PM > *To:* public-html-media@w3.org > *Subject:* Formal objection to Encrypted Media Extensions progressing > to Proposed Recommendation without greater user protection > > > > [Note this is a formal objection as an individual in a private > capacity, not on behalf of my organization] > > I'd like to fill a formal objection against Encrypted Media Extensions > progressing to Proposed Recommendation status without adequate > protection for users. > > I believe that this work is so problematic given the well-known and > well-documented problems with DRM, it should not happen as a standard > at all at W3C. That being said, for reasons which I do not agree with > and hope he reconsiders, the Director has approved both the scope of > the charter and the move of the Working Draft to Candidate > Recommendation. > > If it does happen, then it seems given the well-documented problems, > some harm mitigation should be pursued. The security research > community has broad support for the EFF covenant being a normative > requirement [1]. However, it appears consensus is not forthcoming on > either EME itself or the EFF covenant, with the Technology and Policy > IG also failing to gain any consensus for even further discussion (as > it failed to even get chartered). > > To myself, the danger of EME is that over the last year suddenly over > millions of people had a content decryption module installed without > their explicit consent on their computer. For many users, such as > those of Firefox, the DCM was installed via a silent update they had > no control over. Such a content decryption module can serve as both a > technical security risk, as it puts a highly privileged process in the > user's computer outside their direct control by design, and as a legal > risk subjects any inspection of the DRM-enabled system on their > computer due to the anti-circumvention provision of the DMCA or local > equivalent. Thus, regardless of whether or not one agrees with EME, it > seems the *least* the W3C should do is warn the user about the > installation and activation of a CDM on their machine - and that the > CDM should not be installed and EME should not be activated without > explicit user consent. Thus, in all configurations, EME should be > *de-activated by default.* > > There is prior art in HTML for similarly powerful and privacy-invasive > features such as the Geolocation API [4]. Thus, there should be no > procedural problem in requiring user consent and disabling EME by > default in all browsers. While it can be argued many users will want > to watch protected videos and will turn them on, just as many users > will want to use Google Maps with Geolocation APIs, there does not > seem to be a reasonable case for having such > powerful and possibly dangerous features enabled by default. > > Current language in the spec is so weak as it may not be enforced and > so EME does not have to be disabled by default: " User Agents have > some flexibility to determine whether consent is required for a > specific configuration and whether such consent may also apply to > other configurations. For example, consent to one configuration may > also imply consent for less powerful, more restricted configurations. > Equally, a denial of consent for one configuration may imply denial of > consent for more powerful, less restricted configurations." > > The only place where the spec [5] makes normative statements around > consent, but due to how DRM (i.e. Key Systems) are designed, it is > unclear how the user agent should interpret these statements > > "If a user agent chooses to support a Key System implementation that > cannot be sufficiently sandboxed or otherwise secured, the user > agent//should ensure that users are fully informed and/or give > explicit consent before loading or invoking it." > > "User Agents should ensure that users are fully informed and/or give > explicit consent before a Key System that presents security concerns > that are greater than other user agent features (e.g. DOM content) may > be accessed by an origin..." > > " User agents must ensure that users are fully informed and/or give > explicit consent before Distinctive Identifier(s) are exposed, such as > in messages from the Key System implementation." > > Although these statements show some progress towards trying to > mitigate the dangers of DRM, given that DRM systems work in > conjunction with anti-circumvention legislation that prevents a > developer from knowing whether or not they can sufficiently sandboxed > (or 'otherwise secured') and whether a Distinctive Identifier is used > by the DRM system, so the use of EME will *always* present security > concerns that are greater than the rest of the user agent features > involving the Open Web Platform. > > Is the Working Group amendable to having EME and associated DRM > systems (i.e. "Key Systems") *normatively* disabled by default in > order to protect users? > > cheers, > harry > > [1] > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/03/security-researchers-tell-w3c-protect-researchers-who-investigate-browsers > [2] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#Opposition_to_DRM > [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#Shortcomings > [4] https://www.w3.org/TR/geolocation-API/#implementation_considerations > [5] https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/ >
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