- From: ddorwin via GitHub <sysbot+gh@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 23:07:44 +0000
- To: public-html-media@w3.org
ddorwin has just created a new issue for https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media: == Remove "persistent-release-message" MediaKeySessionType == **Summary:** It does not make sense to include a feature in the spec that is not a common or accepted practice, is not widely supported, and is fundamentally flawed. In addition, doing so will lead to an unsustainable series of requests for unimplementable features in the spec and/or implementations. There is only one ([thread](https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2015Mar/thread.html#msg46)) content provider planning to use the _secure proof of key release for non-persistent licenses_ feature represented by [`"persistent-release-message"`](https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/#idl-def-MediaKeySessionType.persistent-release-message). It is **not a common practice, nor is there accepted consensus** on its utility or effectiveness. Widely-accepted and supported alternatives are already supported by the spec and implementations. Including this optional feature in the spec unnecessarily increases the likelihood of platform fragmentation/segmentation: This feature is unrelated to content protection or robustness, yet a content provider reliant on it (and subsequent requirements) may deny content to clients that otherwise support the relevant levels of robustness. In the [March 17 telecon](http://www.w3.org/2015/03/17-html-media-minutes.html#item08), Mark said "the system is very much dependent on getting these messages", including after the application has been closed (something that browsers and most user agents cannot support). He also said they (Netflix) "don't know what the frequency of these messages will be in the field" or how important the reliability of receiving the messages is to its effectiveness. He also hinted they may find more cases where they would want to report such messages. The mechanism is fundamentally unreliable - placing server responsibilities on every client yet expecting the reliability of the server - and thus begets additional troublesome feature to mitigate that. Additional technical issues: * The mechanism is unreliable in a browser or other multitasking environment.^ * This may significantly reduce its effectiveness and introduce user friction not present with the alternative solutions.^^ * This has led to repeated requests (as recent as [March 17, 2015](http://www.w3.org/2015/03/17-html-media-minutes.html#item08)) to ensure or allow implementations to send messages after the window/tab/user agent have been closed by the user. This is not something we can specify, and any attempt to make such behavior optional would likely lead to segmentation. * This session type is essentially a `“persistent-license”` session with a short expiration time. It introduces a requirement that CDMs be able to persist state even for [“simple [online] streaming.”](https://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Media_Task_Force/EME_Use_Cases#Simple_Streaming_of_a_Specific_Title) This raises the bar of entry for new implementations and/or may preclude some implementations/devices (including private browsing modes). Note: This session type specifically relates to **persisting** a secure proof of key/license release of non-persistent licenses for later retrieval. It does **not** apply to release messages related to persistent licenses ([`“persistent-license”`](https://w3c.github.io/encrypted-media/#idl-def-MediaKeySessionType.persistent-license) sessions) or even release messages from `“temporary”` sessions that do not need to be persisted. ^ Examples include the user closing the tab or browser, especially for clients that implement quick shutdown; the user closing a laptop lid; tab eviction (for limited resources, especially - but not limited to - on mobile devices); crashes. ^^ For example, if a user watching a video closes the laptop lid then goes to a TV to resume, the proof of key release will not have been sent and the user will be unable to resume until some timer expires or they open the laptop and stop the video there. This is **not** a problem with alternative mechanisms, which can gracefully handle the transition, or at least limit the duration of the problem. See https://github.com/w3c/encrypted-media/issues/45
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