FW: HTML WG Note publication of sourcing in-band media resources

> I've also marked bug 25581 as being dependent on bug 25733.

Note that bug 25581 is the following Media TF MSE bug:

Bug 25581 - Establish a update process & home for byte stream format registry and byte stream specs.
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25581

Resolution of the HTML WG bug will/may also impact the EME registry:

Encrypted Media Extensions Stream Format and Initialization Data Format Registry
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/initdata-format-registry.html 

/paulc

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329

From: Sam Ruby [mailto:rubys@intertwingly.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:48 PM
To: Bob Lund
Cc: Paul Cotton; Silvia Pfeiffer (silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com); public-html-admin@w3.org
Subject: Re: HTML WG Note publication of sourcing in-band media resources


On May 15, 2014, at 3:54 PM, Bob Lund <B.Lund@cablelabs.com> wrote:




On 5/13/14, 1:10 PM, "Paul Cotton" <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:


The Chairs have discussed this matter and have a counter proposal on how
to publish this material.

We believe you want to publish your document [1] along the same lines as
the "Media Source Extensions Byte Stream Format Registry" was published
and referenced from the MSE specification.

MSE CR refers to the document as an Informative Reference.  See [2] and
below:

A.2 Informative references
[REGISTRY] Aaron Colwell Media Source Extensions Byte Stream Format
Registry. 02 December 2013 URL:
http://www.w3.org/2013/12/byte-stream-format-registry/

It is very important to get agreement that the material in your proposed
document is in fact "Informative" if we are to follow this example.
Please confirm.

If you agree with this approach then we would need to:

a) Publish your document in W3C space along the lines of how we published
"Media Source Extensions Byte Stream Format Registry",
b) Add an informative reference to HTML 5.0 (and HTML 5.1) to the new
document.

In addition bug 25133 Comment 2 [3] seems to imply there is material in
HTML that should be changed/moved to this new document.  Before we
proceed the HTML WG should be explicitly informed of exactly what changes
are being proposed.

A good way to carry out the above steps would be to open a HTML5.0 bug
that describes the exact proposed changes and to put it before the HTML
WG.

25733 (https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25733) has been
opened. I added a comment referencing 25733 to bugs 25005, 25132, 25133,
24986 and 24997. Let me know if there is anything else I need to do.

I've reopened 25733 and assigned it to me, pending discussion with the Director.

I've also marked bug 25581 as being dependent on bug 25733.


Bob

- Sam Ruby



Please let us know if this proposal meets your original objectives.

/paulc
HTML WG co-chair

[1] 
http://rawgit.com/silviapfeiffer/HTMLSourcingInbandTracks/master/index.htm
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[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/media-source/#references
[3] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25133#c2

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lund [mailto:B.Lund@CableLabs.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:59 AM
To: Paul Cotton; Silvia Pfeiffer (silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com)
Cc: public-html-admin@w3.org
Subject: Re: HTML WG Note publication of sourcing in-band media resources



On 5/13/14, 8:44 AM, "Paul Cotton" <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:


I have a couple of questions about this request:

1. License


This document is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0
License.

Are you willing to publish this under the W3C Document license and the
CC-BY license as per:
http://www.w3.org/blog/2013/09/a-dual-license-for-the-html-working-grou
p/

Yes



2. HTML WG Note

Notes are not usually updated.
http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#tr-end

If you expect to make any changes to this specification should we not
publish it as a Working Draft first?  For example if we received
feedback on the specification it would be easier to accept that feedback
on a
Working Draft.   Going directly to a WG Note is actually a rare plan.

We wil request a FPWD first.



3. Relationship to HTML 5.0 and 5.1

I understand from reading one of referenced bugs that material included
in this specification would be removed from the HTML specification. Am
I correct that this material would only be removed from HTML 5.1?  If
so then the Normative Reference should probably be changed from the
HTML 5.0 CR to HTML 5.1.

The document provides clarification of normative language in HTML 5.0
that aids interoperability so making the change in 5.0 would be better,
assuming we can get to Note status in a timely manner.



/paulc
HTML WG co-chair

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lund [mailto:B.Lund@CableLabs.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:31 AM
To: public-html-admin@w3.org
Subject: HTML WG Note publication of sourcing in-band media resources

Dear all,

I would like to submit the "Sourcing In-band Media Resource Tracks from
Media Containers into HTML" specification for publication as an HTML WG
Note from the latest editors' draft here:

http://rawgit.com/silviapfeiffer/HTMLSourcingInbandTracks/master/index.
htm
l
.

The technical discussion for creating such a note can be found here:

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25133
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25133#c7
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25133#c8

Thanks,
Bob Lund

Received on Tuesday, 17 June 2014 18:49:34 UTC