- From: Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com>
- Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:29:01 +0000
- To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "public-html-media@w3.org" <public-html-media@w3.org>
Minutes -> http://www.w3.org/2013/10/08-html-media-minutes.html [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ - DRAFT - HTML Media Task Force Teleconference 08 Oct 2013 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Oct/0011.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2013/10/08-html-media-irc Attendees Present +1.417.671.aaaa, glenn, markw, paulc, +1.303.661.aabb, kkershaw, adrianba, +44.303.040.aacc, pal, Aaron_Colwell, joesteele, davide, johnsim, +1.613.287.aadd, MartinSoukup, igarashi, [Microsoft] Regrets Chair Paul Cotton Scribe Adrian Bateman Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]Roll call, introductions and selection of scribe 2. [6]Previous meeting minutes 3. [7]Review of action items and issues 4. [8]MSE status and bugs 5. [9]Last Call bugs 6. [10]Bug 22432 - Allow SourceBuffer.appendBuffer to take ownership of the ArrayBuffer 7. [11]Bug 23169 - reconsider the jitter video quality metrics again 8. [12]Bug 23441 - Establish an MSE bytestream format registry 9. [13]Any other business 10. [14]Adjournment * [15]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 08 October 2013 <paulc> trackbot, start meeting <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference <trackbot> Date: 08 October 2013 <paulc> Agenda: [16]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013O ct/0011.html [16] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Oct/0011.html <paulc> Scribe? <scribe> scribenick: adrianba <scribe> scribe: Adrian Bateman Roll call, introductions and selection of scribe paulc: done Previous meeting minutes <paulc> [17]http://www.w3.org/2013/09/24-html-media-minutes.html [17] http://www.w3.org/2013/09/24-html-media-minutes.html paulc: there was some concern about minutes been generated - wasn't sent to the list but was created johnsim: i was talking about last week's EME call paulc: we'll take that offline <paulc> EME minutes: [18]http://www.w3.org/2013/10/01-html-media-minutes.html [18] http://www.w3.org/2013/10/01-html-media-minutes.html paulc: hand-crafted the link <igarashi> +Tasuya_Igarashi johnsim: okay, thanks Review of action items and issues MSE-related actions are given below. MSE status and bugs paulc: last call closes in ~9 days ... did ask the a11y TF if they were aware of this ... may be on their call this week to discuss ... that's the only place i've evangelised the spec ... as of last night we have 3 bugs (in the agenda) Last Call bugs Bug 22432 - Allow SourceBuffer.appendBuffer to take ownership of the ArrayBuffer [19]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22432 [19] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22432 <paulc> [20]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22432#c2 [20] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22432#c2 paulc: this is assigned - current comment from this morning - original correspondent suggests this is invalid acolwell: fine with marking as invalid - can do so right now adrianba: not sure if it is true that there is no possible race? acolwell: step 3 of the appendbuffer algorithm says to add buffer to end of input buffer ... and i think he is interpreting this as a synchronous copy <igarashi> list attendees acolwell: there's no opportunity for there to be a race because it is copied inside the appendbuffer call ... if it was a reference then there could be a race paulc: we should mark this invalid - adrianba can file a new bug if there is something else that needs clarifying Bug 23169 - reconsider the jitter video quality metrics again [21]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23169 [21] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23169 <paulc> [22]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23169 [22] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23169 paulc: this was accompanied by mail from dsinger <paulc> last meeting discussion: [23]http://www.w3.org/2013/09/24-html-media-minutes.html#item07 [23] http://www.w3.org/2013/09/24-html-media-minutes.html#item07 paulc: here's the reference to the minutes from last meeting ... status hasn't changed ... mark, do you have comments? markw: yes, i can do look at that paulc: mark is going to take a look at this ... mark if you can respond on the bug or email and make sure dsinger is prompted markw: ok Bug 23441 - Establish an MSE bytestream format registry <paulc> [24]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23441 [24] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23441 [25]https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23441 [25] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23441 paulc: this one is new - created after the last meeting ... have you done anything on this? acolwell: i'm looking for an example of something to use as a starting point ... how do we do this elsewhere? paulc: didn't we decide to do this for EME CDMs? glenn: i proposed something for this in the wiki paulc: at a minimum that would be a place to start ... if people don't like that then they can discuss what else to do acolwell: i was also trying to draft advice about how to write a format up ... to try to get consensus on what this should be ... will draft something up ... wanted a bug to track so we don't forget it paulc: if glenn will give us the link - is it handy? glenn: will add it momentarily Any other business <glenn> [26]http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/KeySystemRegistry [26] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/KeySystemRegistry paulc: could you put the link into the bug? ... i think we're done for today - when we meet in two weeks LC will have closed by then so one of the topics will be how to move forward <joesteele> bug link? paulc: my experience is that LC comments peak on the last day ... any other comments or topics? acolwell: what is the process after LC? paulc: i haven't had time to do this but given the small number of comments we're going to want to produce a LC disposition ... should be easy by going through the bugs and communicating with people on each one ... then we start talking about going into CR ... you transition into LC without the Director but to get out of LC and into CR then we have to get permission from the Director ... we will want to describe the CR exit critera ... any features to be marked at risk ... and how long we expect CR to last ... at the next meeting we should focus on LC bugs first ... and then maybe have an agenda item after to discuss the CR items i just listed ... we could queue up an email discussion too acolwell: do we need a CfC to exit LC? paulc: we'll have to produce a candidate CR document including features at risk, exit criteria, and minimum period ... we also need a comments disposition ... we'll take this to the WG - don't expect concerns ... once we have the TF and WG consensus then i request audience with the Director ... to ask to move to CR ... typically for complex documents you might have a telcon with some combination of the chairs, Team contact, and editors to answer questions about how you disposed of LC comments ... and to see if he agrees with entrance and exit criteria ... fair question - should start an email discussion after LC closes Adjournment paulc: adjourned Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] _____________________ From: Paul Cotton [mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com] Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 6:19 PM To: public-html-media@w3.org Subject: {agenda} HTML WG media telecon 2013-10-08 - MSE status and Last Call bug discussion The HTML WG media teleconference meeting will occur on 2013-10-08 for up to 60 minutes from 15:00Z to 16:00Z. http://timeanddate.com/s/2gr3 Tokyo midnight, Amsterdam/Oslo 17:00, London/Dublin 16:00, New Jersey/York 11:00, Kansas City 10:00, Seattle/San Francisco 08:00. Chair of the meeting: Paul Cotton Scribe: TBD (See the end of this email for dial-in and IRC info.) == Agenda == 1. Roll call, introductions and selection of scribe 2. Previous meeting minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/09/24-html-media-minutes.html 3. Review of action items and issues https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/ MSE-related actions are given below. 4. MSE status and bugs a) Last Call MSE closes on Oct 17 http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/WD-media-source-20130905/ b) Media Source Extensions editor's draft: http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/media-source/media-source.html Status as of Oct 7: Last updated on Oct 4. b) Media Source Extensions bugs: http://tinyurl.com/6pdnzej Status as of Sep 21: 3 bugs. See below. 5. Last Call bugs a) Bug 22432 - Allow SourceBuffer.appendBuffer to take ownership of the ArrayBuffer https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22432 b) Bug 23169 - reconsider the jitter video quality metrics again https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23169 c) Bug 23441 - Establish an MSE bytestream format registry https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23441 6. Any other business 7. Chair and Scribe for next meeting Next meeting will be in two weeks on Oct 8. 8. Adjournment == Dial-in and IRC Details == Zakim teleconference bridge: +1.617.761.6200, conference 63342 ("media") https://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_5366 Supplementary IRC chat (logged): #html-media on irc.w3.org port 6665 or port 80 Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada 17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3 Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
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