{agenda} HTML WG media telecon 2013-03-12 - EME bugs discussion from Paul Cotton on 2013-03-11 (public-html-media@w3.org from March 2013)

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 23:03:24 +0000
To: "public-html-media@w3.org" <public-html-media@w3.org>
CC: "David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com> (ddorwin@google.com)" <ddorwin@google.com>, Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com>, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>
Message-ID: <AB5704B0EEC35B4691114DC04366B37F202CE4CD@TK5EX14MBXC295.redmond.corp.microsoft.>
The HTML WG media teleconference meeting will occur on 2013-03-14 for up to 60 minutes from 15:00Z to 16:00Z.



http://timeanddate.com/s/2cad



Tokyo midnight, Amsterdam/Oslo 16:00, London/Dublin 15:00, New Jersey/York 11:00, Kansas City 10:00, Seattle/San Francisco 08:00.

NOTE: North America is now on Daylight Savings Time.



Chair of the meeting: Paul Cotton

Scribe: TBD



(See the end of this email for dial-in and IRC info.)



== Agenda ==



1. Roll call, introductions and selection of scribe



2. Previous meeting minutes

http://www.w3.org/2013/02/19-html-media-minutes.html



3. Review of action items

https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/

None.



4. Baseline documents



a) Encrypted Media Extensions editor's draft

http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html

Last updated on Feb 26.



b) Candidate FPWD

https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media-fpwd.html



5. Progression to First Public Working Draft



a) CfC: to publish Encrypted Media Extensions specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD)

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0102.html

Team's statement about scope:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Feb/0122.html

Chair's CfC decision:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Feb/0123.html

Status: Paul is working with the WG Chairs on the next steps.



6. Discussion of outstanding bugs



a) Encrypted Media Extensions bugs:

http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo

Status as of Mar 11: 39 bugs (see list at end of agenda)



b) [EME] Bugs for discussion this week: key not available behavior and when to fire needkey events

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Mar/0033.html



i) What behavior and event should occur when the key for an encrypted block is not available?



ii) Should the user agent automatically avoid firing events, creating sessions, or generating key request messages when the key(s) are already known or the Initialization Data has already been encountered?



7. Other Business



a) Discussion of EME at next PING call

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Feb/0081.html



8. Chair and Scribe for next meeting



9. Adjournment



== Dial-in and IRC Details ==



Zakim teleconference bridge:

   +1.617.761.6200, conference 63342 ("media")

https://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_5366



Supplementary IRC chat (logged):

   #html-media on irc.w3.org port 6665 or port 80





Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada

17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3

Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329


39 bugs found.
ID▲<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=6101&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on=>

Product<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=6101&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=product%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=>

Comp<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=6101&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=component%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=>

Assignee<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=6101&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=assigned_to%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=>

Status<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=6101&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=bug_status%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=>

Resolution<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=6101&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=resolution%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=>

Summary<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=6101&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=short_desc%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=>

Changed<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=6101&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=changeddate%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=>

16540<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16540>

HTML WG

Encrypte

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

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Provide guidelines on Key System string format <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16540>

Thu 20:27

16541<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16541>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

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Update examples to use async XHR <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16541>

2012-08-28

16553<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16553>

HTML WG

Encrypte

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

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Consider not firing a needkey event when a potentially encrypted stream is encountered if the key is already known <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16553>

Sun 05:28

16616<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16616>

HTML WG

Encrypte

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

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Support change of key during playback <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16616>

Sat 03:49

16617<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16617>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

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Consider more granular error reporting <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16617>

2012-08-28

16737<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16737>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

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Should MEDIA_KEYERR_CLIENT be two separate errors? <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16737>

2012-09-04

16738<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16738>

HTML WG

Encrypte

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

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Provide more guidance on heartbeat implementation <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16738>

2012-12-11

16857<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16857>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

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MEDIA_ERR_ENCRYPTED should exclude decrypt failure <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16857>

2012-09-04

17199<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17199>

HTML WG

Encrypte

watsonm@netflix.com

ASSI

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Provide examples for and get feedback on Key Release <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17199>

2013-02-15

17203<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17203>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

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Should session ID be required? <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17203>

2012-12-11

17660<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17660>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

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need token relative with user identity for a new generateKeyRequest parameter <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17660>

2012-10-31

17673<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17673>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

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Define Initialization Data for implementations that choose to support the ISO Base Media File Format <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17673>

2013-01-27

17750<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17750>

HTML WG

Encrypte

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

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Define the behavior MediaKeySession close() and clearing the keys attribute <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17750>

2012-10-31

18515<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18515>

HTML WG

Encrypte

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

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Provide more details on behavior of the media element when the key for an encrypted block is not available <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18515>

15:23:20

18928<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18928>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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MediaKeySession IDL should list EventHandler attributes for onkeyadded, onkeymessage, and onkeyerror <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18928>

2012-12-04

19009<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19009>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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A MediaKeys should belong to a single HTMLMediaElement. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19009>

2013-02-11

19096<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19096>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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Add 'type' attribute to MediaKeyNeededEvent <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19096>

2012-12-04

19156<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19156>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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Switching decoders when the key system is specified <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19156>

2013-03-02

19208<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19208>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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Keymessage event not needed when Key System already has Key <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19208>

Sun 05:16

19788<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19788>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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What, if any, event should be fired when no key is available to decrypt the block? <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19788>

Sun 04:58

19805<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19805>

HTML WG

Encrypte

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

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Restriction to only use initData in createSession is too restrictive <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19805>

2012-11-01

19809<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19809>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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Specify which portion of addKey() algorithm to run when updating license for a key <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19809>

2012-11-01

19810<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19810>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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Should key IDs be required in content and addKey()'s parameter? <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19810>

2012-12-11

20335<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20335>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

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Replace canPlayType() with static bool isTypeSupported() on MediaKeys <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20335>

2013-01-12

20336<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20336>

HTML WG

Encrypte

ddorwin@google.com

NEW

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Revert addition of keySystem attribute to HTMLSourceElement <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20336>

2013-01-08

20338<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20338>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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Explicitly specify whether initData is required for Clear Key <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20338>

2012-12-11

20552<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20552>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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Encrypted Block Encountered algorithm should not reference Initialization Data <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20552>

2013-01-02

20622<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20622>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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SessionID may be assigned asynchronously in MediaKeys.createSession <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20622>

2013-01-09

20688<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20688>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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Provide more details on when keyadded should be fired <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20688>

2013-01-16

20689<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20689>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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Specify how CDM should indicate successful completion with no message for server <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20689>

2013-01-16

20691<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20691>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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Should createSession()'s type parameter be required? <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20691>

2013-01-16

20798<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20798>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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keySystem strings should be compared case-sensitively <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20798>

Thu 20:27

20944<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20944>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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EME should do more to encourage/ensure CDM-level interop <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20944>

2013-02-26

20963<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20963>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

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EME is technically incomplete <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20963>

2013-02-26

20965<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20965>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

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EME results in a loss of control over security and privacy. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20965>

2013-02-26

20966<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20966>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

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EME design trivializes the demanded loss of control of security and privacy demanded. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20966>

2013-02-26

20991<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20991>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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MediaKeys constructor failure case refers to unknown "new object". <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20991>

2013-02-14

21155<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21155>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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EME should be explicit about its relationship with Web Platform APIs that allow video frames and audio samples to be extracted from an HTMLMediaElement <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21155>

2013-02-28

21203<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21203>

HTML WG

Encrypte

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

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EME leaks information cross-origin <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21203>

15:23:50
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