{agenda} HTML WG media telecon 2013-02-19 - EME bugs discussion from Paul Cotton on 2013-02-17 (public-html-media@w3.org from February 2013)

From: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:22:26 +0000
To: "public-html-media@w3.org" <public-html-media@w3.org>
CC: "David Dorwin <ddorwin@google.com> (ddorwin@google.com)" <ddorwin@google.com>, Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com>, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com>
Message-ID: <AB5704B0EEC35B4691114DC04366B37F1F82640B@TK5EX14MBXC290.redmond.corp.microsoft.>
The HTML WG media teleconference meeting will occur on 2013-02-19 for up to 60 minutes from 15:00Z to 16:00Z.



http://timeanddate.com/s/2c2e



Tokyo midnight, Amsterdam/Oslo 17:00, London/Dublin 16:00, New Jersey/York 11:00, Kansas City 10:00, Seattle/San Francisco 08:00.



Chair of the meeting: Paul Cotton

Scribe: TBD



(See the end of this email for dial-in and IRC info.)



== Agenda ==



1. Roll call, introductions and selection of scribe



2. Previous meeting minutes

http://www.w3.org/2013/02/05-html-media-minutes.html



3. Review of action items

https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/

None.



4. Baseline documents



a) Encrypted Media Extensions editor's draft

http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html

Last updated on Jan 22.



b) Candidate FPWD

https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media-fpwd.html



5. Progression to First Public Working Draft



a) CfC: to publish Encrypted Media Extensions specification as a First Public Working Draft (FPWD)

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Jan/0102.html

Team's statement about scope:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Feb/0122.html

Chair's CfC decision:

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Feb/0123.html



b) Bugs filed after CfC decision


20944<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20944>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

EME should do more to encourage/ensure CDM-level interop, and can be different per-user/device. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20944>

Thu 00:30

20960<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20960>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME is not limited to video. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20960>

Tue 20:27

20961<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20961>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME depends on privileged access to the users computer which is not technically available. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20961>

Tue 20:02

20962<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20962>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME depends on patented technology. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20962>

Tue 20:10

20963<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20963>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME is technically incomplete <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20963>

Sat 01:39

20964<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20964>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME depends on servers with a finite life. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20964>

Tue 20:22

20965<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20965>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME results in a loss of control over security and privacy. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20965>

Thu 19:51

20966<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20966>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME design trivializes the demanded loss of control of security and privacy demanded. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20966>

Tue 20:17

20967<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20967>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME does not allow independent implementation, excluding open source implementations. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20967>

Thu 19:38

20968<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20968>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME depends on legal sanctions to succeed and this is not a matter that can be addressed here. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20968>

Tue 20:20

20978<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20978>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Just an API for encouraging the use of proprietary plugins <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20978>

Tue 23:21

20992<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20992>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

EME should define or reference a platform-independent VM in which CDMs will run <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20992>

Thu 18:31

21016<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21016>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Please split Clear Key into a separate optional specification <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21016>

14:38:41




6. Discussion of outstanding bugs



a) Encrypted Media Extensions bugs:

http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo

Status as of Feb 17: 46 bugs (see list at end of agenda)



7. Other Business



a) Discussion of EME at next PING call

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2013Feb/0081.html



8. Chair and Scribe for next meeting



9. Adjournment



== Dial-in and IRC Details ==



Zakim teleconference bridge:

   +1.617.761.6200, conference 63342 ("media")

https://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_5366



Supplementary IRC chat (logged):

   #html-media on irc.w3.org port 6665 or port 80



Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada

17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3

Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329




46 bugs found.
ID▲<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=5368&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on=>

Assignee<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=5368&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=assigned_to%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=>

Status<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=5368&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=bug_status%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=>

Summary<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=5368&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=short_desc%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=>

Changed<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&list_id=5368&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&order=changeddate%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=>

16540<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16540>

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

Provide guidelines on Key System string format <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16540>

2012-09-05

16541<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16541>

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

Update examples to use async XHR <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16541>

2012-08-28

16553<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16553>

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

Consider not firing a needkey event when a potentially encrypted stream is encountered if the key is already known <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16553>

2012-11-01

16616<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16616>

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

Support change of key during playback <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16616>

2012-11-01

16617<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16617>

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

Consider more granular error reporting <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16617>

2012-08-28

16737<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16737>

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

Should MEDIA_KEYERR_CLIENT be two separate errors? <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16737>

2012-09-04

16738<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16738>

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

Provide more guidance on heartbeat implementation <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16738>

2012-12-11

16857<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16857>

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

MEDIA_ERR_ENCRYPTED should exclude decrypt failure <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=16857>

2012-09-04

17199<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17199>

watsonm@netflix.com

ASSI

Provide examples for and get feedback on Key Release <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17199>

Fri 16:41

17203<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17203>

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

Should session ID be required? <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17203>

2012-12-11

17660<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17660>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

need token relative with user identity for a new generateKeyRequest parameter <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17660>

2012-10-31

17673<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17673>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

Define Initialization Data for implementations that choose to support the ISO Base Media File Format <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17673>

2013-01-27

17750<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17750>

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

Define the behavior MediaKeySession close() and clearing the keys attribute <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17750>

2012-10-31

18515<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18515>

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

Provide more details on behavior of the media element when the key for an encrypted block is not available <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18515>

2012-09-04

18928<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18928>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

MediaKeySession IDL should list EventHandler attributes for onkeyadded, onkeymessage, and onkeyerror <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18928>

2012-12-04

19009<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19009>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

A MediaKeys should belong to a single HTMLMediaElement. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19009>

Mon 22:52

19096<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19096>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Add 'type' attribute to MediaKeyNeededEvent <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19096>

2012-12-04

19156<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19156>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Switching decoders when the key system is specified <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19156>

2012-12-11

19208<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19208>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Keymessage event not needed when Key System already has Key <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19208>

Tue 13:44

19788<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19788>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

What, if any, event should be fired when no key is available to decrypt the block? <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19788>

2012-11-01

19805<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19805>

ddorwin@google.com

ASSI

Restriction to only use initData in createSession is too restrictive <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19805>

2012-11-01

19809<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19809>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Specify which portion of addKey() algorithm to run when updating license for a key <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19809>

2012-11-01

19810<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19810>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Should key IDs be required in content and addKey()'s parameter? <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19810>

2012-12-11

20335<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20335>

adrianba@microsoft.com

ASSI

Replace canPlayType() with static bool isTypeSupported() on MediaKeys <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20335>

2013-01-12

20336<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20336>

ddorwin@google.com

NEW

Revert addition of keySystem attribute to HTMLSourceElement <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20336>

2013-01-08

20338<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20338>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Explicitly specify whether initData is required for Clear Key <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20338>

2012-12-11

20552<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20552>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Encrypted Block Encountered algorithm should not reference Initialization Data <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20552>

2013-01-02

20622<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20622>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

SessionID may be assigned asynchronously in MediaKeys.createSession <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20622>

2013-01-09

20688<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20688>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Provide more details on when keyadded should be fired <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20688>

2013-01-16

20689<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20689>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Specify how CDM should indicate successful completion with no message for server <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20689>

2013-01-16

20691<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20691>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Should createSession()'s type parameter be required? <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20691>

2013-01-16

20798<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20798>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

keySystem strings should be compared case-sensitively <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20798>

Tue 14:01

20944<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20944>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

EME should do more to encourage/ensure CDM-level interop, and can be different per-user/device. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20944>

Thu 00:30

20960<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20960>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME is not limited to video. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20960>

Tue 20:27

20961<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20961>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME depends on privileged access to the users computer which is not technically available. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20961>

Tue 20:02

20962<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20962>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME depends on patented technology. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20962>

Tue 20:10

20963<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20963>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME is technically incomplete <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20963>

Sat 01:39

20964<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20964>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME depends on servers with a finite life. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20964>

Tue 20:22

20965<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20965>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME results in a loss of control over security and privacy. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20965>

Thu 19:51

20966<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20966>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME design trivializes the demanded loss of control of security and privacy demanded. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20966>

Tue 20:17

20967<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20967>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME does not allow independent implementation, excluding open source implementations. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20967>

Thu 19:38

20968<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20968>

adrianba@microsoft.com

REOP

EME depends on legal sanctions to succeed and this is not a matter that can be addressed here. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20968>

Tue 20:20

20978<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20978>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Just an API for encouraging the use of proprietary plugins <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20978>

Tue 23:21

20991<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20991>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

MediaKeys constructor failure case refers to unknown "new object". <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20991>

Thu 05:47

20992<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20992>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

EME should define or reference a platform-independent VM in which CDMs will run <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20992>

Thu 18:31

21016<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21016>

adrianba@microsoft.com

NEW

Please split Clear Key into a separate optional specification <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21016>

14:38:41


46 bugs found.
Received on Sunday, 17 February 2013 15:23:08 UTC