- From: stosss <stosss@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:48:59 -0500
- To: "<public-html-media@w3.org>" <public-html-media@w3.org>
What exactly are you saying? You work for one of the biggest problem creating, non-cooperative, greedy companies on the planet. I stopped using Microsoft products more than 10 years ago. I have lost nothing by doing so. I have gained plenty by doing so. I don't pirate software. I do oppose attempts to control what I can or can't do. I gained much (honestly and legitimately) after switching to Open Source Software more than 10 years ago. The proprietary, greedy world you live and work in has nothing I want. Why do you people think it is necessary to lock down everything. Why do you insist on making everything have a monetary price before it can be obtained? Microsoft and the government have the same philosophy and that is most people are stupid and deserve to be taken advantage of. There is the possibility that could be true but that doesn't make it right? My cousin has so much money he could not possibly spend it all unless of course he gave it to the government. They would have it spent within the hour. Do any of you people at Microsoft still use the UNIX system your company started on? If not. Why not? It is better than everything you have now. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:59 PM, John Simmons <johnsim@microsoft.com> wrote: > Is this really the tone we wish to set about this important topic? > > > > I am interesting in listening to the point of view of people with whom I > disagree. That is the way of progress. But moral certainty is the enemy of > progress, not permitting any synthesis of opinion, denying any correctness > to the other’s point of view. It is an terrible price to pay for the paltry > reward of being the one who is “right”. > > > > --- > > > > "Most of the greatest evil that man has inflicted upon man comes through > people feeling quite certain about something which, in fact, was false." > > Bertrand Russell > > > > John > > > > > > John C. Simmons | Media Platform Architect | Microsoft Corporation | direct > 425-707-2911 | mobile 425-269-5759 > > > > > > From: Florian Bösch [mailto:pyalot@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:30 PM > To: Mark Watson > Cc: <public-html-media@w3.org> > Subject: Re: DRM nonsense > > > > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Mark Watson <watsonm@netflix.com> wrote: > > Please see my other comment about the different things being protected. > > I don't know what weird bizarro world you live in where you think you can > "protect" anything that goes on a users computer. Let me break it to you the > hard way, you can't. End of story. That's it. As soon as you have anything > running on a users computer, the user can do anything to your "trusted" > software whatsoever. This my friend is the world where you intercept and > fake syscalls, disassemble binaries, grab memory from living ram, instrument > foreign binaries, compile your own drivers, compile your own browser, > compile your own kernel and a pleathora of other techniques to completely > root your scheme. What you call "protection" is nothing more than a slight > of hand. It's nothing more than cheap obfuscation. It's not magic. It's a > magic trick. It only works on those who don't know how it works. And it only > takes one who knows, to break it for everybody. You're talking as if the > implementation of that DRM will be the grand masterpiece of integrity. It's > not. It's cheap parlor trick. People 10x or 100x as intelligent as you or me > will read your code and will break in a matter of minutes, and they put on > bittorrent, pastebins and on bitbucket, github and gists. There is no such > as a "secret" once you have thing on a users computer, none whatsoever. > Please stop fooling yourself. And please stop fooling your clients, because, > they don't know any better. They can't even imagine what I'm talking about. > When you go into meeting and tell your clients "this runtime is secure" > you're lying. You're lying out of your arse. There's no such thing in DRM as > secure. None whatsoever. You cannot protect anything at all. Just stahp. > Alright? I'm not as dumb as the content people you have meetings with. > > -- "In the days of ancient Rome when the republic was still a republic, Lucius Cassius, one of the city's most venerated consuls, famously coined the phrase cui bono. It means As a benefit to whom?, and Lucius Cassius, inquisitive and analytical by nature, was always asking the question... whether he was investigating a crime or unraveling political corruption." - Simon Black Like I have always said, "Follow the flow of the money it always reveals the truth."
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