RE: {agenda} HTML WG media telecon 2013-08-20 - EME status and bug discussion from Petr Peterka on 2013-08-20 (public-html-media@w3.org from August 2013)

From: Petr Peterka <ppeterka@verimatrix.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 00:40:14 +0000
To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>, "public-html-media@w3.org" <public-html-media@w3.org>
Message-ID: <2A42B4EC40CB3745AD11314BB97DF05E0DD608@VMX-EXCHANGE-02.verimatrix.com>
Hi Paul
I just reopened an old bug (https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17615). Unfortunately, we will not be able to attend tomorrow’s call due to travel but will be happy to participate in a discussion during one of the future calls.
          Best regards,
                   Petr

From: Paul Cotton [mailto:Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com]
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 4:17 PM
To: public-html-media@w3.org
Subject: {agenda} HTML WG media telecon 2013-08-20 - EME status and bug discussion


The HTML WG media teleconference meeting will occur on 2013-08-20 for up to 60 minutes from 15:00Z to 16:00Z.



http://timeanddate.com/s/2eff



Tokyo midnight, Amsterdam/Oslo 17:00, London/Dublin 16:00, New Jersey/York 11:00, Kansas City 10:00, Seattle/San Francisco 08:00.



Chair of the meeting: TBD (Paul Cotton is travelling in Asia)

Scribe: TBD



(See the end of this email for dial-in and IRC info.)



== Agenda ==



1. Roll call, introductions and selection of scribe



2. Previous meeting minutes

http://www.w3.org/2013/08/13-html-media-minutes.html



3. Review of action items and issues

https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/

Note: Outstanding actions associated with open bugs are later in the agenda.



a) ISSUE-1: Consider moving the Clear Key definition into a separate specification

https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/issues/1



4. EME Heartbeat publication

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2013Jul/0039.html

Status: Editors to provide information on preparation of a heartbeat document and expected date of publication.



5. EME status and bugs



a) Encrypted Media Extensions editor's draft

http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html

Last updated on Jul 16



b) Encrypted Media Extensions bugs:

http://tinyurl.com/7tfambo

Status as of Aug 19: 19 bugs



6. Bugs not discussed at Aug 13 meeting



a) Bug 20966 - EME design trivializes the demanded loss of control of security and privacy demanded.

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20966



ACTION-30: Implement closing 20966 (Adrian)

https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/30



b) Bug 21854 - Define MediaKeySession life cycle states and/or events

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21854#c9

Note: We decided on Jul 30 that Adrian could implement the solution as discussed.  No progress made by Aug 6 meeting.



c) Bug 21855 - Avoid network traffic and duplicate sessions for the same key(s)

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21855#c5

Note: Action on this bug is dependent on resolving Bug 21854 (see above).  Discussed by not resolved on Jul 30.  No progress made by Aug 6 meeting.



d) Bug 17673 - Define Initialization Data for implementations that choose to support the ISO Base Media File Format

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17673



ACTION-25: And John S to work on corner cases for bug 17673 (David)

https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/25

Note: On Aug 6 we changed the due date of this action to Aug 13.  See:

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17673#c14



e) Bug 17750 - Define the behavior MediaKeySession close() and clearing the keys attribute

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17750#c7



ACTION-27: Add comments to bug 17750 summarising the recent discussion of close (Adrian)

https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/27

Note:  Awaiting Mark’s input.



f) Bug 18515 - Provide more details on behavior of the media element when the key for an encrypted block is not available

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18515



ACTION-31: Propose text to resolve bug 18515 (David) due Sep 10

https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/31



g) Bug 21869 - Need clarity on stored keys for CDMs

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21869#c8

Note: Discussed on Jul 16.



7. Previously discussed bugs with actions



a) Bug 18515 - Provide more details on behavior of the media element when the key for an encrypted block is not available

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18515#c12



ACTION-36 - Review david comment 12 on bug 18515 and provide feedback [on Adrian Bateman - due 2013-08-20].

https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/36



b) Bug 20944 - EME should do more to encourage/ensure CDM-level interop

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20944



ACTION-37: Update wiki provided for bug 20944 to cover the case where the drm is supporting by the os

https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/37



c) Bug 22910 - Needs non-normative Privacy Consideration section

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22910

Note: Blocks bugs 20965 and 20966.



ACTION-35: Inform privacy ig who we spoke to in feb about bug 22910

https://www.w3.org/html/wg/media/track/actions/35



d) Bug 22909 - Needs non-normative Security Considerations section

https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22909

Note: Blocks bugs 17202, 21869 and 22901. Discussed at Aug 13 meeting and awaiting David’s comments on Glenn’s proposal.



8. Any other business



9. Chair and Scribe for next meeting.



10. Adjournment



== Dial-in and IRC Details ==



Zakim teleconference bridge:

   +1.617.761.6200, conference 63342 ("media")

https://www.w3.org/Guide/1998/08/teleconference-calendar#s_5366



Supplementary IRC chat (logged):

   #html-media on irc.w3.org port 6665 or port 80

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329

19 bugs found.
ID▼<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_file_loc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&email1=&email2=&emailtype1=substring&emailtype2=substring&field0-0-0=noop&keywords=&keywords_type=allwords&longdesc=&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=&votes=&order=bug_id&query_based_on=>

Assignee<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_file_loc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&email1=&email2=&emailtype1=substring&emailtype2=substring&field0-0-0=noop&keywords=&keywords_type=allwords&longdesc=&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=&votes=&order=assigned_to%2Cbug_id%20DESC&query_based_on=>

Status<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_file_loc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&email1=&email2=&emailtype1=substring&emailtype2=substring&field0-0-0=noop&keywords=&keywords_type=allwords&longdesc=&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=&votes=&order=bug_status%2Cbug_id%20DESC&query_based_on=>

Summary<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_file_loc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&email1=&email2=&emailtype1=substring&emailtype2=substring&field0-0-0=noop&keywords=&keywords_type=allwords&longdesc=&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=&votes=&order=short_desc%2Cbug_id%20DESC&query_based_on=>

Changed<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?bug_file_loc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&component=Encrypted%20Media%20Extensions&email1=&email2=&emailtype1=substring&emailtype2=substring&field0-0-0=noop&keywords=&keywords_type=allwords&longdesc=&longdesc_type=allwordssubstr&product=HTML%20WG&query_format=advanced&short_desc=&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=&votes=&order=changeddate%2Cbug_id%20DESC&query_based_on=>

22910<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22910>

adrianba

NEW

Needs non-normative Privacy Consideration section <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22910>

2013-08-13

22909<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22909>

adrianba

NEW

Needs non-normative Security Considerations section <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22909>

Wed 00:49

22901<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22901>

adrianba

REOP

Should consider the possibility of active (executable) content <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22901>

Thu 18:05

21869<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21869>

adrianba

NEW

Need clarity on stored keys for CDMs <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21869>

2013-08-13

21855<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21855>

adrianba

ASSI

Avoid network traffic and duplicate sessions for the same key(s) <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21855>

2013-07-30

21854<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21854>

adrianba

ASSI

Define MediaKeySession life cycle states and/or events <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21854>

2013-08-06

21798<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21798>

adrianba

NEW

Revisit MediaKeyError codes <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21798>

2013-04-26

20991<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20991>

adrianba

NEW

MediaKeys constructor: make CDM loading asynchronous and fix the load failure algorithm <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20991>

2013-04-27

20966<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20966>

adrianba

REOP

EME design trivializes the demanded loss of control of security and privacy demanded. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20966>

2013-08-13

20965<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20965>

adrianba

REOP

EME results in a loss of control over security and privacy. <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20965>

2013-08-13

20944<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20944>

adrianba

NEW

EME should do more to encourage/ensure CDM-level interop <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20944>

Sat 00:10

20622<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20622>

watsonm

ASSI

SessionID may be assigned asynchronously in MediaKeys.createSession <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=20622>

2013-04-27

19809<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19809>

adrianba

NEW

Specify which portion of addKey() algorithm to run when updating license for a key <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19809>

2013-04-27

18515<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18515>

ddorwin

ASSI

Provide more details on behavior of the media element when the key for an encrypted block is not available <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18515>

22:02:51

17750<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17750>

ddorwin

ASSI

Define the behavior MediaKeySession close() and clearing the keys attribute <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17750>

2013-08-06

17673<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17673>

adrianba

REOP

Define Initialization Data for implementations that choose to support the ISO Base Media File Format <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17673>

Sat 04:01

17660<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17660>

adrianba

REOP

need token relative with user identity for a new generateKeyRequest parameter <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17660>

2012-10-31

17202<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17202>

adrianba

REOP

Explicitly document how keys are to be shared <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17202>

2013-08-13

17199<https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17199>

watsonm

ASSI

Provide examples for and get feedback on Key Release <https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=17199>

2013-07-16

19 bugs found.

Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
Received on Tuesday, 20 August 2013 00:40:49 UTC