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[Bug 10524] Please clarify procedure and recourse for non-working group members when they are unsatisfied with a bug resolution

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Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:17:31 +0000
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--- Comment #19 from Shelley Powers <shelleyp@burningbird.net>  2010-09-13 19:17:31 ---
(In reply to comment #18)
> (In reply to comment #13)
> 
> Hi Sam,
> 
> > > * What is the proper procedure for non-members to follow if they are
> > > unsatisfied with a bug resolution?
> > 
> > I said early in this thread that hard cases make for bad laws.  The procedure
> > will depend on what reason is given for the person to remain a non-member.
> 
> I think I understand...Perhaps adding something like along the lines of the
> following in policy could work?
> 
> "Non-members are encouraged to join the working group so they can fully
> participate in this process. But extenuating circumstances for not joining the
> group will be considered by the Chairs on a case-by-case basis."
> 
> Then link to the info on how to join the group for the phrase "join the working
> group" and have an email link to the chairs for the phrase "considered by the
> Chairs".

I don't believe we need to specify extenuating circumstances. 

The HTML WG chairs should consider that people wanting to do the extra work
required for change proposals are doing so out of interest and wanting to
contribute. 

Instead, this implies that anyone who wants to contribute a change proposal,
but doesn't want to join the HTML WG, is to be treated with suspicion--having
to produce motive, which will then undergo scrutiny for possible nefarious
purpose.

Is this really what the HTML WG wants to imply?


> 
> This will:
> 
> 1. Encourage people to join and let them know how to join (nowhere in the
> policy does it say how to join).
> 2. Let non-members know if they have extenuating circumstances, the Chairs will
> listen and the non-member won't be dismissed out of hand. A short and simple
> statement something like the one above could uncover legitimate reasoning.
> 
> > The reason why the Discussion Guidelines are not ancillary to this bug is very
> > simple: if the reason given turns out to be an unwillingness to agree to these
> > guidelines, then the answer is very simple: there is no procedure for such
> > individuals (if any) to follow as they simply are not welcome here.
> 
> Maybe have a link to the Discussion Guidelines in the info on how to join? Then
> all new members will be made aware of the Guidelines and repercussions of not
> following them.
> 
> Laura

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