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[Bug 8833] Please allow the title of the spec currently known as "HTML5" to be changed to an accurate title.

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Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:20:17 +0000
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Dean Edridge <dean@dean.org.nz> changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Dean Edridge <dean@dean.org.nz>  2010-02-14 08:20:17 ---
(In reply to comment #2)
> The HTML WG has formally decided to publish this specification under the name
> "HTML5". See <http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/htmlbg/results#xname>.

Why are you telling me this? It is irrelevant, I am well aware of that survey,
I voted against the "HTML5" title and if others knew that the spec wasn't
"HTML5" they would have too. Just because there has been a survey does not mean
that the problem is solved, quite the opposite. The survey question was: "Shall
the W3C's next-generation HTML specification be named "HTML 5"?" The
specification never has been the next-generation HTML specification, HTML5 is
just a small part of it. Also, survey results are not binding.

Several people including Sam Ruby, Roy Fielding and myself have tried to get
the title changed, however, each time we have been ignored (sometimes mocked or
laughed at by certain people) and the proposals have been blocked by
representatives of browser vendors and the WHATWG. 

I have explained in detail why the problem needs to be resolved. No technical
report should contain two technologies with the same name, and especially when
that name is also being used for the name of the spec. It would be
irresponsible for the HTML WG to continue to publish this spec when they know
of these errors.

The title needs to be changed, and at the same time solve the problem with two
HTML5s within the spec, and this needs to be done within the group, not by Ian
himself. It's a not a hard thing to do, wouldn't take long, just need the HTML
WG to accept there's a problem and to make sure people don't interfere and
block the change, as unfortunately, this has happened in the past, this is why
we still have a spec with errors and contradictions.

Due to a conflict of interest, and/or interference in the past, the following
people will need to step aside and let the rest of the HTML WG resolve this

Ian Hickson, Google, Inc.
Maciej Stachowiak, Apple, Inc.
David Hyatt, Apple, Inc.

I filed a bug report for this issue due to the fact that I've been ignored in
the past. I've left the bug as "needsinfo" (not sure what else to use). I'd be
happy to discuss this issue later in the week on public-html once my HTML WG
membership is renewed.

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