[Bug 6610] add a preventable forced-fragment method

http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6610


Erik Wilde <dret@berkeley.edu> changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Erik Wilde <dret@berkeley.edu>  2009-02-28 02:26:57 ---
http://dret.typepad.com/dretblog/2008/05/xhtml-fragment.html has some
discussion about the general question of fragment identifiers for HTML5. it had
been discussed on the HTML5 mailing list and was shot down because it is a
classical "chicken and egg" problem, and therefore it is hard to justify to do
this other than by saying "this will improve the web as a hypermedia and
information system, is not extremely hard to do, can be done with perfect
backwards compatibility, and therefore we do it."

my personal recollection of the discussion is that the whole argument of
"improving HTML as a language for hypermedia and information representation" is
not in the focus of the HTML5 effort. it is mostly about improving HTML as a
language for building interfaces. personally, i think this is unfortunate and
misses some long hanging fruit, but the feedback on the mailing list was not
too great, and apparently most people don't really care that much about this
particular problem.

more specifically, the "##" approach looks problematic to me. this would
require an update of the generic URI syntax, a fairly central document on the
web. the approach i have proposed would be to improve fragment identifications
in HTML5, and these could be pointers to elements, or could have "search
semantics", deciding on the possible fragment identification mechanisms would
be the second step after deciding that HTML5 should do something in that area.


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