RE: HTML WG Note publication of sourcing in-band media resources

The Introduction section of the In-Band Media Resource document implies that subtitles could be a subset of captions and share a single in-band track.  Is there any known example that actually does this?

Jerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Lund [mailto:B.Lund@CableLabs.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 12:54 PM
To: Paul Cotton; Silvia Pfeiffer (silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com)
Cc: public-html-admin@w3.org
Subject: Re: HTML WG Note publication of sourcing in-band media resources



On 5/13/14, 1:10 PM, "Paul Cotton" <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:

>The Chairs have discussed this matter and have a counter proposal on 
>how to publish this material.
>
>We believe you want to publish your document [1] along the same lines 
>as the "Media Source Extensions Byte Stream Format Registry" was 
>published and referenced from the MSE specification.
>
>MSE CR refers to the document as an Informative Reference.  See [2] and
>below:
>
>  A.2 Informative references
>  [REGISTRY] Aaron Colwell Media Source Extensions Byte Stream Format 
>Registry. 02 December 2013 URL:
>http://www.w3.org/2013/12/byte-stream-format-registry/
>
>It is very important to get agreement that the material in your 
>proposed document is in fact "Informative" if we are to follow this example.
>Please confirm.
>
>If you agree with this approach then we would need to:
>
>a) Publish your document in W3C space along the lines of how we 
>published "Media Source Extensions Byte Stream Format Registry",
>b) Add an informative reference to HTML 5.0 (and HTML 5.1) to the new 
>document.
> 
>In addition bug 25133 Comment 2 [3] seems to imply there is material in 
>HTML that should be changed/moved to this new document.  Before we 
>proceed the HTML WG should be explicitly informed of exactly what 
>changes are being proposed.
>
>A good way to carry out the above steps would be to open a HTML5.0 bug 
>that describes the exact proposed changes and to put it before the HTML 
>WG.

25733 (https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25733) has been opened. I added a comment referencing 25733 to bugs 25005, 25132, 25133,
24986 and 24997. Let me know if there is anything else I need to do.

Bob

>
>Please let us know if this proposal meets your original objectives.
>
>/paulc
>HTML WG co-chair
>
>[1]
>http://rawgit.com/silviapfeiffer/HTMLSourcingInbandTracks/master/index.
>htm
>l
>[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/media-source/#references
>[3] https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25133#c2
>
>Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Lund [mailto:B.Lund@CableLabs.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:59 AM
>To: Paul Cotton; Silvia Pfeiffer (silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com)
>Cc: public-html-admin@w3.org
>Subject: Re: HTML WG Note publication of sourcing in-band media 
>resources
>
>
>
>On 5/13/14, 8:44 AM, "Paul Cotton" <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>I have a couple of questions about this request:
>>
>>1. License
>>
>>>This document is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 
>>>License.
>>
>>Are you willing to publish this under the W3C Document license and the 
>>CC-BY license as per:
>>http://www.w3.org/blog/2013/09/a-dual-license-for-the-html-working-gro
>>u
>>p/
>
>Yes
>
>>
>>2. HTML WG Note
>>
>>Notes are not usually updated.
>>http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#tr-end
>>
>>If you expect to make any changes to this specification should we not 
>>publish it as a Working Draft first?  For example if we received 
>>feedback on the specification it would be easier to accept that 
>>feedback on a
>>Working Draft.   Going directly to a WG Note is actually a rare plan.
>
>We wil request a FPWD first.
>
>>
>>3. Relationship to HTML 5.0 and 5.1
>>
>>I understand from reading one of referenced bugs that material 
>>included in this specification would be removed from the HTML 
>>specification.  Am I correct that this material would only be removed 
>>from HTML 5.1?  If so then the Normative Reference should probably be 
>>changed from the HTML 5.0 CR to HTML 5.1.
>
>The document provides clarification of normative language in HTML 5.0 
>that aids interoperability so making the change in 5.0 would be better, 
>assuming we can get to Note status in a timely manner.
>
>>
>>/paulc
>>HTML WG co-chair
>>
>>Paul Cotton, Microsoft Canada
>>17 Eleanor Drive, Ottawa, Ontario K2E 6A3
>>Tel: (425) 705-9596 Fax: (425) 936-7329
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Bob Lund [mailto:B.Lund@CableLabs.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:31 AM
>>To: public-html-admin@w3.org
>>Subject: HTML WG Note publication of sourcing in-band media resources
>>
>>Dear all,
>>
>>I would like to submit the "Sourcing In-band Media Resource Tracks 
>>from Media Containers into HTML" specification for publication as an 
>>HTML WG Note from the latest editors' draft here:
>>
>>http://rawgit.com/silviapfeiffer/HTMLSourcingInbandTracks/master/index.
>>htm
>>l
>>.
>>
>>The technical discussion for creating such a note can be found here:
>>
>>https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25133
>>https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25133#c7
>>https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25133#c8
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Bob Lund
>>
>>
>>
>

Received on Thursday, 15 May 2014 22:38:01 UTC