Re: CfC: Request transition of W3C DOM4 to Candidate Recommendation

On Fri, 2014-05-02 at 08:05 -0400, Arthur Barstow wrote:
> On 5/1/14 11:39 AM, Philippe Le Hegaret wrote:
> > On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 12:18 -0400, Arthur Barstow wrote:
> >> Hi Sam,
> >>
> >> I noticed the pub date of the Draft CR is May 6 and it says a Proposed
> >> Rec won't be published before June 6. Would you please clarify the
> >> expectations and plans for the CR (f.ex. the status of the test suite,
> >> is there an agreed set of tests for CR, status of implementations)?
> > The status of the test suite and implementations was discussed at the
> > f2f meeting:
> >   http://www.w3.org/2014/04/08-html-wg-minutes.html#item03
> 
> OK thanks, but rather than have test suite status in some obscure 
> minutes document, perhaps it would be more generally helpful to include 
> some status info in the test suite rep (f.ex. 
> <https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/tree/master/dom/README.md>).

Well, except that the information is likely to become stale quickly.
Groups only look at test status when it's time to do so from the W3C
Process, while tests in WPT get updated on a daily basis. So, I'm
reluctant to encourage groups to put test results in WPT that they're
not willing to maintain on an ongoing basis.

> > See also
> >   http://w3c.github.io/dom/test-results/less-than-2.html
> 
> That's real helpful and perhaps a link to it should be included in the 
> CR's SotD section.
> 
> > CR publication would be indeed June 6, with a 4 weeks review period.
> 
> So, I think you mean the plan is to publish the CR on May 6. I still 
> don't quite understand the implications of the Draft CR saying the spec 
> will not be published as a PR before June 6. Is the expectation you will 
> have 2 implementations passing all of the tests by June 6? (I'm trying 
> to get a sense i.e. "guestimate" on when you expect this spec to exit CR.)

Yes, the remaining task to move DOM to PR is to make sure we have enough
tests for mutation observers. So, it gets done by June 6 and the test
results confirm that we have the implementations (and we believe we do),
DOM could move to PR in June.

> >>   I
> >> didn't notice any so called `exit criteria` in the Draft but perhaps
> >> that's included/rationalized in `plan 2014` so I apologize if all of
> >> this is known.
> > That was indeed missing in the draft. The plan is to use regular
> > criteria, ie 2 implementations for every feature.
> 
> OK, please do include that info in the CR.

Yes, the information was missing indeed.

Philippe

Received on Friday, 2 May 2014 14:33:27 UTC