- From: Matthew Turvey <mcturvey@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:37:33 +0000
- To: Paul Cotton <Paul.Cotton@microsoft.com>
- Cc: "public-html-admin@w3.org" <public-html-admin@w3.org>
I object to publishing this "Image Description Extension (longdesc)" Working Draft on the Recommendation track. Plan 2014 suggested people focus on providing a better solution to the use cases longdesc supposedly addresses. But as the chairs have already pointed out - twice - these use cases can already be solved with existing alternative techniques: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Aug/att-0112/issue-30-decision.html http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Feb/0058.html And this has again been confirmed by Charles in the Last Call feedback noting "It is clearly possible to meet any given use case's requirements, and even a subset of all of them, with many kinds of solutions": http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Feb/0093.html PF and HTML A11Y TF have recently again stated their intention to make longdesc obsolete, but understandably have a "strong concern of controlling when a longdesc attribute is obsoleted": http://www.w3.org/2013/10/31-html-a11y-minutes.html#item04 In the meantime, longdesc is still being suggested as a viable technique, despite the well-known problems with longdesc usage including basic usability and POUR issues, the current poor level of UA/AT support, and the hopelessly polluted state of current longdesc usage: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=22777 It seems there is a much stronger consensus around making longdesc "obsolete but conforming": http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Dec/0030.html "Obsolete but conforming" would also mean authors using a conformance checker can be informed via a warning that longdesc is not currently well supported, and the warning could contain links to alternative approaches that actually work right now: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Dec/0031.html I'd like to propose instead: 1. The HTMLWG publish this document as a Note to indicate work - and discussion - on this feature is finished 2. Reinstate longdesc into HTML5.0 as a "obsolete but conforming" feature 3. Make longdesc "obsolete" in HTML5.1 This approach has the advantage of ensuring authors, implementors and this Working Group do not spend any more time on a feature that is known to be problematic for users at the current time, and that is going to be obsoleted in the near future anyway. -Matt
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