- From: Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net>
- Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 10:06:55 -0500
- To: public-html-admin@w3.org
On 12/12/2014 09:10 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On 12/12/2014 07:38 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:35 PM, Robin Berjon <robin@w3.org> wrote: >>> I think we're all agreed that publishing a specification for Slightly >>> Different Kitchens isn't ideal. The open question is: what is? >> >> I was thinking of Shiny Donkey Coalition referencing the toast >> grilling algorithm in the Rainbow Unicorn Kitchen Specification and >> noting that the Shiny Donkey Coalition, at this time, repudiates >> remarks about buttering toast and about pizza-ordering fridges. >> >> It seems to me that the problem is that Steve doesn't want to risk >> people seeing the competing toast buttering remarks at all. > > I would encourage you to refrain from making these types of conclusions > as they don't further the discussion. Steve has questioned this > conclusion of yours[1]. The fact that the W3C HTML Recommendation[2] > prominently links to the WHATWG HTML Living Standard would also indicate > that your conclusion is incorrect. > >>> Do you think it would be possible to address the granularity issue >>> from the >>> WHATWG end? >> >> I haven't talked with Hixie about it lately, but, previously, the >> attempt to spin off Window was a bad experience, so I don't really >> expect WHATWG HTML to become modularized. Other than the WHATWG HTML >> spec, it seems to me that specs over at the WHATWG are already >> sufficiently granular. >> >>> I don't know if it would be under the specific form that you are >>> suggesting, >>> but at some point I would love it if we could publish a specification >>> that >>> basically says "The Web Platform is this, that, and the other thing over >>> there." But we're a number of collective steps away from that. >> >> What do you think is the current main blocker for the W3C normatively >> referencing a WHATWG spec over there? > > For starters, we would need a stable reference. As a practical matter, > it would be difficult for a stable recommendation to repudiate remarks > about buttering toast and pizza-ordering fridges that at one time > appeared in a moving target. It occurred to me that while you asked for the "main blocker", it would be worthwhile to share what I think a complete picture would look like. I'll preface this by saying that I only expect that what I'm about to describe to only work for non-kitchen-sink specifications. Here is what I'm actively proposing be done with the URL standard: https://github.com/webspecs/url/blob/develop/docs/workmode.md#preface Public feedback welcome where-ever. My preference is pull requests, but this github issues, this mailing list as well as public-webapps, whatwg, and www-archive are also OK with me. - Sam Ruby > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Dec/0018.html > [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/#status-of-this-document
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